AEE：我会让步！如何在英语中通过妥协建立联系

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这点我同意。

I'll give you that.

如何在英语交流中通过让步实现有效沟通。

How to concede to connect in English.

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当他人提出你不同意的观点时，你会保持沉默，还是直接否定对方的想法？

When someone says something that you disagree with, do you stay quiet, or do you shut down their idea?

如果你想在生活中建立联系，这两件事都不要做。

Don't do either of these things if you want connection in life.

今天，来学习如何不情愿地用英语做出让步。

Today, find out how to begrudgingly make a concession in English.

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嘿，林赛。

Hey, Lindsay.

你好吗？

How are you?

嘿，米歇尔。

Hey, Michelle.

我今天过得很好。

I'm doing great today.

今天节目里我们要聊些什么？

What are we getting into in the show today?

那么，你最喜欢纽约市的哪个街区？

Well, what's your favorite neighborhood in New York City?

哦，绝对是时代广场。

Oh, definitely Times Square.

毫无疑问。

Hands down.

毫无争议。

No question.

哦，哇。

Oh, wow.

我是说，确实，那里很热闹。

I mean, yeah, there is a lot of action there.

这点我承认。

I will say that.

我感觉你可能不太赞同我的选择。

I get the sense you maybe don't agree with me.

但你知道，我只是想表现得礼貌些。

But I, you know, I'm trying to be nice.

Lindsay，这真的是你最喜欢的纽约街区吗？

Lindsay, is that really your favorite neighborhood in New York?

不是。

No.

不，Michelle。

No, Michelle.

确实不是。

It's not.

那可能是我最不喜欢的街区。

It's probably my least favorite neighborhood.

我几乎从不去那里。

I almost never went there.

大多数本地人都不去时代广场。

Most locals do not go to Times Square.

所以是的。

So Yes.

如果你想看看真正的纽约，我是说，作为游客每个人都应该去时代广场看看。

If you wanna see the see the real New York I mean, everyone should probably go to Times Square as a tourist just to see it.

当然。

Of course.

但如果你想看纽约，就别去时代广场。

But then if you wanna see New York, don't go to Times Square.

去联合广场吧。

Go to Union Square.

去市中心。

Go downtown.

去中央公园。

Go to Central Park.

对吧，米歇尔？

Right, Michelle?

是的。

Yeah.

完全同意。

Absolutely.

绝对同意。

Absolutely.

所以今天我们会玩得很开心。

So today, we're this is gonna be a lot of fun.

我们要讨论如何不情愿地让步。

We're gonna talk about how to concede a point begrudgingly.

对吧？

Right?

就像你其实不同意，或者只是勉强说'好吧'那样。

Kinda like you don't agree with it, or you're just saying, okay.

行吧。

Fine.

但你想保持乐观，姑且把观点让给表达意见的人。

But you wanna be optimistic and kind of just let a point go to the person who's expressed something.

我们马上会详细解释这是什么意思。

So we're gonna explain more of what we mean in just a second.

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对。

Yeah.

我能预见这种情况经常发生——当你觉得某人品味很差，但又不能直说的时候。

I could see this coming up a lot when you think someone has bad taste, but you don't wanna you can't really say that.

比如几年前感恩节，我们去我哥哥家，我嫂子有个家庭传统。

Like, a few Thanksgivings ago, we went to my my brother's house, and my sister-in-law has this family tradition.

她认为她祖母做的感恩节派是全世界最好吃的。

This is for Thanksgiving that she thinks that her grandmother's pies are, like, the best.

所以我当时对这个派特别期待。

And so I was so excited for this pie.

她整天都在吹嘘这个派有多棒。

She had talked it up, you know, all day.

哇。

Wow.

说实话那个派真的很一般。

And the pie was honestly nothing special.

我还不得不配合着演戏，这就是我们现在要讨论的这种情境。

And I had to kind of play along, you know, and this is kind of the vibe that we're getting into.

那是什么馅的派？

What kind of pie was it?

我想是南瓜派吧。

It was a pumpkin pie, I think.

它就...我们到底在期待什么？整天这么兴奋是为了什么？

And it was just like, what are we even like, what what have we been so excited about all day?

但我觉得对她来说，这更多是出于对她祖母做的派的怀旧情结，你懂吧？

But I think for her, it was just it was just the more the nostalgic aspect of her grandmother's pie, you know?

当然。

Of course.

是啊。

Yeah.

嗯。

Yeah.

这太有意思了。

So that's so funny.

所以，这个想法是从之前的一期节目里产生的。

So, this came out this idea came out from an earlier episode.

可以稍后告诉你节目编号，方便你收听。

Can give you the number later so that you can listen.

但在这期节目里，我和林赛还记得吗，林赛？

But in this episode, Lindsay and I were do you remember, Lindsay?

我们当时在讨论大西洋城。

We were talking about Atlantic City.

对。

Yeah.

然后你当时反应特别大，真的吗？

And we you were like, really?

大西洋城？

Atlantic City?

我就说，他们那儿的海滨步道其实挺不错的。

And I said, I mean, they do have a nice boardwalk.

我得这么说。

I will say that.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以当时我其实是在为自己辩护，或者说为一个名声不太好的地方辩护，同时强调其积极面。

So here I was actually kinda defending myself or something that doesn't have a great reputation and highlighting the positive.

所以这种技巧可以用在多种场合。

So this can this kind of skill can be used in multiple ways.

我们将讨论更多实现方式、它对连接的作用及其意义。

So we're gonna talk about more ways to do this and what it does for connection and what it means.

好吗？

Okay?

好的。

Yeah.

我超爱这个话题。

I love this I love this topic.

内容很棒。

Good stuff.

我们开始吧，米歇尔。

Let's get into it, Michelle.

我们该从哪里开始？

Where do we start here?

好的。

Alright.

首先你可以说的第一点是，我相信这是我们用过的，我是说……

So the first thing that you could say, and this is what we used, I believe, I mean dot dot dot.

我会这么说。

I will say that.

你不必说'我是说'，但这很常见。

You don't have to say I mean, but it's pretty common.

对吧。

Right.

那么，林赛，你会这么说吗？

So, Lindsay, would you say this?

我会这么说。

I will say that.

没错。

Right.

是的。

Yeah.

我会这么说。

I would.

对。

Yeah.

没错。

Exactly.

这有点像...相当于另一种表达方式，我承认这点。

It's kinda like you it's it's another way of saying, I will concede that.

你在这里做了些让步。

You're making a bit of a concession here.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Right.

正是这样。

Exactly.

所以这可以用来强调积极的一面。

So this can be used to highlight the positive.

对吧？

Right?

承认一个观点。

Concede a point.

再回到大西洋城的话题，我说过是我自己承认曾在大西洋城。

So again, about Atlantic City, I'm saying I was the one that said I was in Atlantic City.

然后我说，好吧，这里有个积极的点。

And then I'm saying, well, there is a positive point.

这点我承认。

I will say that.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

但它也可以用来让步，或者这对保持联系很重要，你知道的，就是维持这种联系。

But it can also be used to concede the point or to this is important for con you know, like maintaining the connection.

所以与其我说'林赛，真的吗？'

So instead of me saying, Lindsey, really?

时代广场？

Times Square?

你怎么了？

What's wrong with you?

对吧？

Right?

对。

Right.

我们作为人类不想那样做。

We don't wanna do that as human beings.

我们不想，是啊。

We don't wanna yeah.

我们想要建立联系。

We wanna connect.

我们想找到能达成共识的点。

We wanna find the thing that we can agree with.

达成一致。

Agree on.

明白吗？

You know?

是的。

Yes.

所以是的。

So Yes.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

那么让我们通过几个角色扮演来演示这听起来会是什么样。

So let's show how this may sound in a couple role plays.

好的。

Okay.

我觉得麦当劳是最棒的

I think McDonald's is the best

餐厅。

restaurant.

哦，我是说，他们的薯条确实很好吃。

Oh, I mean, they do have delicious french fries.

这点我承认。

I will say that.

好吧。

Okay.

是啊。

Yeah.

我是说确实。

I mean yeah.

所以试着在这里找到一个共同点。

So trying to find a common point of agreement here.

对吧？

Right?

即使这并不容易。

Even if it's not easy.

没错。

Exactly.

或者还有另一个例子。

Or here's another one.

好吧。

Alright.

感恩节期间旅行压力太大了。

It's so stressful to travel during Thanksgiving.

我理解。

I get it.

我可不想那时候被困在机场。

I wouldn't wanna be stuck at the airport then.

我得说清楚这一点。

I will say that.

所以这个观点并不是说，认为你的看法有问题。

So this one isn't necessarily like, think there's something wrong with you for your opinion.

对。

Right.

我只是，你知道的，就是随便说说，嗯。

I'm just, you know, just kinda saying I yeah.

你说得对。

You're right.

我要特别强调这一点。

And I'm going to highlight this point about it.

嗯。

Yeah.

也许在这里你并不一定需要，比如，

Maybe here you don't necessarily have, like,

一个故事或者你不在感恩节旅行，所以你确实没什么可说的。

a story or you don't travel on Thanksgiving, so you don't really have anything to say or something.

对吧？

Right?

但你想说

But you wanna say

点什么。

something.

对吧？

Right?

你想要

You wanna

说点什么。

say something.

对。

Right.

对。

Right.

没错。

Exactly.

所以这可能是因为你完全不同意，或者你只是想联系到另一个不同的观点。

So this may be that you totally disagree, or maybe you're just trying to relate to a different point.

就像林赛说的，我认为这里确实有个很好的观点就是，也许你对某事并没有非常强烈的感受，但你知道你想某种程度上支持对方，或者说‘是啊’。

Or like Lindsay say said, I think that's really a good point here is just, oh, maybe you don't have very strongly strong feelings about something, but you're you know, wanna kinda support the person or say, yeah.

当然。

Sure.

是啊。

Yeah.

你总得说点什么。

You gotta say something.

我是说，最破坏人际关系的就是不回应。

I mean, the worst thing for connection is just not to respond.

因为，我遇到过那样的人。

Because, I mean, I've been around people like that.

他们就是对你说话时毫无反应。

They just kinda don't respond when you say things.

他们只是保持沉默。

They just stay quiet.

这简直是世界上最尴尬的事。

It's the most awkward thing in the world.

就像在问，你听到我说话了吗？

It's like, did you hear me?

那个，我们之间还好吗？

Like, are are we okay?

这个麦克风开着吗？

Is this thing on?

嗯。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

你会陷入一种自信的螺旋。

You get into like a spiral of confidence.

就像，发生了什么？

It's like, what's happening?

我是不是疯了？

Am I going crazy?

没错。

Right.

你懂吗？

You know?

对。

Right.

所以我们需要说些什么来建立联系。

So we need to say something to build connection.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Exactly.

那么休息过后，林赛，我们将讨论更多实现这一目标的方法。

So after the break, Lindsey, we're gonna talk about more ways that we could do this.

好的。

Yeah.

没问题，米歇尔。

Alright, Michelle.

既然如此，那我们就再找些增进联系的方法吧。

Let's look for some more ways to connect then in that case.

这里确实有些非常棒的内容。

So really good stuff here.

好词汇。

Good vocabulary.

第一个是‘我承认这一点’。

First one is I'll give you that.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Right.

这基本上是另一种说法，表示我向你让步这一点。

That's basically another way of saying I concede this point to you.

就像，你赢了

Like, you win

在这种事情上。

on this kind of.

对吧？

Right?

没错。

Yep.

正是这样。

Exactly.

那让我们看看效果如何。

So let's see how this looks.

那我们开始吧。

So here we go.

猜字游戏总是个不错的

Charades is always a good

家庭派对选择。

idea for a house party.

确实能让每个人都参与进来。

It does keep everyone engaged.

这点我承认。

I'll give you that.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以你大概不是猜字游戏的忠实粉丝。

So you're maybe not a big Charades fan.

我觉得我也不是。

I don't think I am either.

但总得说点什么，因为你想让气氛活跃起来。

But you have to say something because you wanna keep the vibe going.

你想保持积极的态度。

You wanna keep things positive.

对吧？

Right?

对。

Right.

没错。

Right.

我不会说，你知道的，在这里说'哦，是的'听起来不太真诚。

I'm not gonna say, you know, I here, it doesn't sound like I wanna say, oh, yeah.

我也很喜欢Schroed's。

I love Schroed's too.

这是我最爱的。

It's my favorite.

我发现我正在提取积极的部分。

I'm finding I'm pulling out a positive piece.

是的。

Yes.

嗯哼。

Mhmm.

或者还有另一个。

Or here's another one.

发芽面包是我的最爱。

Sprouted bread is my favorite.

我不太喜欢它，但它确实健康。

I don't love it, but it is healthy.

这点我承认。

I'll give you that.

没错。

Right.

所以你们得找到能达成共识的点。

So you gotta find something you can agree on.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

我们要吃吗？

Do we eat?

要哪种面包

What kind of bread do

我们吃什么面包？

we eat?

我不吃布里欧修。

I don't or brioche.

是啊。

Yeah.

哦，布里欧修。

Oh, brioche.

嗯哼。

Uh-huh.

布里欧修太好吃了。

Brioche is so good.

虽然对身体不好，但真的太好吃了。

It's so bad for you, but it's so good.

没错。

Yeah.

还有别的吗，米歇尔？

What else, Michelle?

还有另一个吗？

Is there another?

是的。

Yeah.

我得承认这里还有一个。

Here's another one is I have to admit.

好吗？

Okay?

好的。

Okay.

嗯。

Mhmm.

那我们开始吧。

So here we go.

我知道你不喜欢街角那家甜甜圈店，但我要去那里买咖啡，你要来点吗？

I know you don't like the donut shop down the street, but I'm getting coffee from there if you want any.

噢，他们的咖啡确实不错。

Oh, they do have good coffee.

我得承认。

I have to admit.

当然。

Sure.

谢谢。

Thanks.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以没错。

So yeah.

这样能让社交活动顺利进行，你懂的。

It just keeps the you know, keeps things running smoothly socially.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

嗯。

Mhmm.

我们再试一个。

Let's try another.

通勤情况比

Commute is way worse than

你的糟糕多了。

yours.

我不得不承认，你确实要应对城市交通。

You do have to deal with city traffic, I have to admit.

但我的通勤也不是什么轻松事。

But my commute is no picnic either.

是的。

Yes.

所以你在这里稍微为自己辩护了一下。

So you're sticking up for yourself a little bit here.

对吧？

Right?

嗯。

Mhmm.

嗯。

Mhmm.

对。

Yeah.

对。

Yeah.

所以，你看，这也可以用来介绍或分享你的观点。

So, you know, you can see this can also introduce or be used to share your point.

对吧？

Right?

只是以一种表明你持开放态度且愿意在某些方面让步的方式。

Just in a way that shows that you're open and willing to concede certain things.

所以这对建立连接非常重要。

So that's really important for connection.

天啊。

Oh my gosh.

是啊。

Yeah.

没人愿意

No one wants to

和一个凡事都要强行灌输自己观点、对每件事都要跟所有人唱反调的人交谈。

talk to the person that has to hammer home their opinion on everything and has to disagree with everyone on everything.

我认识那种人。

I know that person.

对吧？

Right?

你确实认识。

You do.

你认识那种人吗？

Do you know that person?

嗯，我以前遇到过那种人。

Well, I've been around people like that in the past.

是啊。

Yeah.

就是感觉特别累人。

It's just like, it's exhausting.

对吧？

Right?

真的很累人。

It's exhausting.

没错。

Right.

你那时总是处于一种防备状态。

You're just always kind of on the defense then.

你会想，天啊。

You're like, oh god.

我总得为自己对每件事的感受辩护，否则这个人就会评判或批评我。

I always have to defend how I feel about everything or this person is judging or criticizing me.

是啊。

Yeah.

对吧？

Right?

是啊。

Yeah.

天哪。

Oh my gosh.

我有个亲戚以前就爱这样。

I had a family member that used to do this.

这总让我妈妈抓狂，因为她是个儿童发展专家，就像儿童心理学家那样。

It used to drive my mom nuts because my mom was a child development specialist, like a child psychologist.

而我叔叔总爱挑剔她的专业能力，简直要把她逼疯。

And my uncle used to pick apart her expertise, and it would drive her insane.

天啊。

Oh gosh.

尤其糟糕的是当有人挑剔你专精的领域时，比如你可是博士级别的专家，懂吗？

Especially bad when someone kind of picks apart, like, what you're an expert in, like PhD expert, you know?

没错。

Yep.

没错。

Yep.

她真的会气疯的。

And she would go crazy.

我觉得如果她能这么做，她的心理负担会小很多，你懂吗？

I think if she could have just done this, it would have been easier on her mind, you know?

没错。

Right.

确实。

Right.

你还可以对此暗自觉得有点好笑。

And you can have a kind of little chuckle to yourself about it.

是啊。

Yeah.

当然。

Sure.

那很棒。

That's great.

你懂吗？

You know?