BE 483：用爆米花式学习法提升你的英语

这里是商务英语播客第483期。用爆米花式学习法提升你的英语水平。欢迎收听All Ears English的商务英语播客，获取实现全球商业梦想所需的英语技能。无论是演讲、会议还是办公室派对，这是来自你最喜爱的美国主持人——纽约和科罗拉多的琳赛与米歇尔带来的真实商务英语课程。

This is the business English podcast episode four eighty three. Improve your English popcorn style. Welcome to the business English podcast from All Ears English. Get the English skills you need to achieve your dreams in global business. For a presentation, a meeting, or your office party, this is real business English with your favorite American hosts, Lindsay and Michelle, coming to you from New York City and Colorado, USA.

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allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore。嘿，米歇尔，最近怎么样？一切都好，琳赛。你呢？

Allearsenglish.com/fluencyscore. Hey there, Michelle. How's everything? Everything is good, Lindsey. How are you?

挺好的。米歇尔，你喜欢爆米花吗？你是爆米花爱好者吗？

Good. Michelle, do you like popcorn? Are you a popcorn person?

我超级喜欢爆米花，这大概是我的最爱之一。我喜欢买现成的，也喜欢自己爆。就是...没错。

I am a huge popcorn person. I think it's one of my favorite things. I like to buy it. I like to make it. I just Okay.

我真的很爱爆米花。丹总开玩笑说，每次我去他办公室，总能发现我去过的痕迹——因为我可能会留下一路爆米花渣。太搞笑了。

I I really do love popcorn. And Dan always jokes that whenever I'm in his in his office, you can always tell that I've been there because I might leave a trail of pop. That's hilarious.

爆米花和饼干对吧？爆米花配饼干。

Popcorn and cookies. Right? Popcorn and cookies.

是的。曲奇、爆米花。没错。你呢？你是个爆米花爱好者吗？

Yeah. Cookies, popcorn. Yep. What about you? Are you a big popcorn person?

是的。我不反对爆米花。我是说，我对爆米花没什么意见。但如果要在巧克力冰淇淋和爆米花之间选，我绝对会选冰淇淋。嗯哼。

Yeah. I'm not against popcorn. I mean, I I have no problems with popcorn. I were choosing between chocolate ice cream and popcorn, I would definitely choose ice cream. Uh-huh.

不过，我确实喜欢焦糖爆米花。那种带点甜味的真的很棒，懂吗？对，超级好吃。

But, yeah, I like kettle corn. That's really good because it's kinda sweet. You know? Yeah. So good.

太美味了。今天我们要回答一个关于爆米花的问题。对，对。这个听众提问来自YouTube，我记得。

So good. So today we're gonna answer a question about popcorn. Yeah. Yeah. So this listener question comes it was from YouTube, I believe.

嗯。来自Albert Moe 1722。他说：嗨，节目太棒了。什么是爆米花风格？

Mhmm. And it's from Albert Moe 1722. And he says, hi. Outstanding show. What is popcorn style?

请解答。谢谢，Albert。谢谢你，Albert。对，好问题。

Please advise. Thanks, Albert. Thank you, Albert. Yeah. Great Good question.

好问题。我...其实我不记得那期节目的具体上下文了，因为...嗯。但基本上我不会具体讨论爆米花风格的含义。我能...我能猜一下吗？对。

Great question. I I actually I don't have the original context from the episode because I I I yeah. But I'm more basically not going to talk about in general what popcorn style means. I can I can guess from? Yeah.

对，对，我们会全面解答那个问题。但首先，米歇尔，我们要提醒听众什么？是不是有什么激动人心的消息即将公布？

Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna fully answer that question. But first, Michelle, what are we going to remind our listeners? Is something exciting is coming soon?

没错！我们对此超级兴奋。我们即将推出一门非常独特的发音课程。你知道，我们今年一直非常忙碌。是的。

Yes! Okay, are super excited about this. We have a very unique pronunciation course is going to be coming out in the near future. So, you know, we've been very busy this year. Yes.

我们已经有专业英语二级课程，现在我们要讨论发音。但再次强调，这是完全不同的一集节目，完全不同类型的发音课程。琳赛，你能简单告诉我们为什么吗？

We had professional English level two, and now we're talking about pronunciation. But again, this is kind of a different episode a different episode. Different different kind of course about pronunciation. Lindsey, would you tell us a little bit about why?

正是如此。在这里，我们的目标不仅仅是教你美式英语或某一种狭窄的发音方式。我们的目标是让你说话清晰。这关乎清晰的表达。这意味着我们会向你展示如何理解我们所说的英语节奏。

Exactly. So here, we're not aiming to just teach you American English or just teach you one narrow kind of pronunciation. We're aiming to get you to speak clearly. It's about clear speech. And that means we're gonna show you how to understand what we call the rhythm of English.

这与汉语、意大利语、西班牙语等音节计时语言不同。所以如果你说其中一种语言，你真的需要知道英语是重音计时语言。我们会在这门课程中向你展示这具体意味着什么。明白吗？这将揭开许多秘密，让你之前可能困惑的事情变得更清晰。

It's different from syllable timed languages like Mandarin, Italian, Spanish. So if you speak one of those languages, you are really gonna wanna know this, that English is a stress time language. And we're going to show you what exactly what that means in this course. Okay? It's going to unlock a lot of secrets and make things more clear that may have been eluding you before.

哦，好的。太棒了。各位，我们确实有一个早期访问名单，你可以注册接收通知。网址是allearsenglish.com/pronunciation。拼写是pr0nunciati0n。

Oh, okay. Awesome. Guys, so we do have an early access list so you can get notified. So it's allearsenglish.com/pronunciation. Spells pr0nunciati0n.

没错。快去注册吧

Exactly. So go get on

加入这个名单，你就能第一时间知道它何时上线。你会收到邮件通知，享受最优价格，成为早期使用者之一，这意味着你将建立联系——我们会持续跟进你的使用情况。我们想收集你对课程的反馈。现在正是抢先体验课程的绝佳时机。

that list because you'll be one of the first to know when it goes live very soon. You'll get an email. You'll get the best possible price, and you'll get to be one of the early adopters, which means you get you get connection you get a level of connection because we'll be asking you how it's going. We wanna know your feedback on the course. So it's a cool time to get into the course very early.

明白吗？

K?

当然，绝对同意。好吧，回到爆米花话题。

Yeah. Definitely. Alright. Popcorn. Back to popcorn.

好的，米歇尔，用爆米花式思维来思考。当我想到这个，就联想到大声抛出想法的场景——就像在啤酒厂或餐厅看到免费爆米花机时那样。有些酒吧会提供自助爆米花，随手抓一把的感觉特别棒，对吧？

Alright. So, yeah, Michelle, popcorn style. Well, when I think about this, I just think about shouting out ideas the same way that when I watch popcorn do you ever go to like a brewery or a restaurant where they have a free popcorn maker? Sometimes there's like sometimes a bar or something will have popcorn and you could just reach in and get it. It's very Yeah.

超爱这种感觉。有时候我会坐着看爆米花砰砰跳出来的样子。对，这就像会议上不断迸发的点子。

Love that. And sometimes I'll sit there and I'll watch the popcorn pop up like that. Yeah. That's exactly what it is in terms of ideas. Popping up ideas in meetings, at work.

这就是爆米花式思维，没错。

This is popcorn Yeah.

我还记得小时候学体操时，一群孩子会挤在大蹦床上，有人一跳——那场景也像爆米花一样热闹。

I also remember when I took gymnastics as a little kid. I think it was that a bunch of kids would get on a trampoline, like a giant trampoline and somebody would jump. And it was like also like popcorn stuff.

对，对，就是这样。很随机。我们并不是在房间里轮流发言，对吧？

Yeah. Yeah. That's it too. It's random. It's not like there's we're not going around the room, right?

这又是另一种风格，可能不仅限于商业场合。有时我和我的冥想小组聚会时，我们会分享。我们会问：'哦，我们是按顺序轮流发言，还是自由发言？' 对，对吧？

Which is another style of maybe not just even in business. Sometimes when I meet with my, like, my meditation group, we'll do sharing. We'll say, oh, are we going around the room or are we just gonna go popcorn style? Yeah. Right?

嗯，没错。就是，你知道的，事情总会在合适的时机出现。所以你只要说'对'就行了。

Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. So just, you know, they everything pops in its own time. So you just say Yeah.

准备好了就说。明白吗？当然你得小心点，因为那样更容易被打断。没错。但话说回来，这就是生活。

Say it when you're ready. Know? Of course, you have to be careful because I mean, that way there is more room for interruption. Right. But again, that's life.

这就是...这就是我们被打断时的反应。我们会说'哦不，抱歉，你先说，你先说'。

That's how that's how it We works in interrupt. We say, oh, no. Sorry. You go. You go.

对吧？

Right?

是啊，这很自然。完全正常。对来自世界各地的听众来说，可能在你们的文化里不太常见。这是我们都需要培养的一项技能。

Yeah. It's just natural. It's totally normal. And it might be less normal in your culture, right, for our listeners from different parts of the world. That is a whole skill we're going to have to develop.

领导者可能会这样说，如果他们在组织会议时，可能会说：'我们来个即兴头脑风暴吧。'

So something that a leader might say, if a leader is organizing a meeting, they might say, Let's brainstorm this popcorn style.

对。好的。没错。我是说，你知道，其实让人进行头脑风暴有不同的方式。

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. So, I mean, you know, there are, again, there are different ways of having people brainstorm.

你可能会说，我们要轮流发言。或者说即兴发言，有趣的是你在冥想时也会这么说。有时候老师也会让学生即兴朗读，随机点名让学生读。好，你，你，你。

Again, you might say, oh, we're going to go, you know, around the room. Or you might say popcorn style, that's interesting that in your meditation you could that you also would say that. Also sometimes, like a teacher might say that they're gonna do popcorn style reading. So they might call on students randomly. Okay, you, you, you.

对吧？对。没有固定顺序。这样能让人感到意外，保持警觉。

Right? Right. No order. To kinda surprise people and keep them on their toes.

哦，保持警觉。我喜欢这个说法。我肯定用过这种方式。米歇尔，你觉得你用过吗？

Oh, keep them on their toes. I like it. So I definitely feel like I use this. Michelle, do you feel like you use this?

对。对。对。当然。没错。

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

而且我很喜欢爆米花。

And I love popcorn.

我喜欢这种头脑风暴方法，因为实际上人们会互相借鉴想法。对吧？有人可能在你之前说了什么，你从他们那里听到的内容能帮助你进一步扩展自己的观点。

So And I like I like this method for brainstorming because the reality is people work off of each other's ideas. Right. So someone might say something before you, and that lets you what you heard from them lets you build out your idea even more.

确实如此。并不总是自然而然地就能说‘我们轮流发言’。因为那样你可能只是在陈述自己的想法，思绪可能会有点飘忽。

And so Right. Yeah. Right. It's not necessarily always natural to just say, oh, we're going around. Because then you're just you're saying your idea, maybe your mind wanders a little bit.

你会想‘哦，我已经说过我的想法了’。或者，我认为这确实很适合头脑风暴，因为它是互动式的，不是简单的‘现在轮到你，现在轮到你’这样机械进行。

You're oh, know, said my idea. Or, you know, I think I I actually really think that it's good for brainstorming because it's an interactive thing. It's not just you. Now you. Now you in a line.

对吧？

Right?

但这里有个尖锐的问题：米歇尔，你认为‘爆米花式’发言在Zoom或远程会议中有效吗？显然会更困难些。

But actually, here's a hot take question. So, Michelle, do you think that popcorn style works through Zoom or remotely? As As harder. Right.

是的。我认为线上会议总会有些不同，缺少一些人际互动的元素。但我认为还是可以实施的——这取决于参与人数多少。

Yeah. I don't think you know, I think over online, you know, something is always gonna be a little bit different, missing a little bit of that human interaction. But I think you could still do it. Like, I I think you can still do it. Not necessarily it depends how many people there are.

我觉得如果Zoom会议室里人少，爆米花式可以成功。但如果一场会议有50人，那就...确实很困难，因为会出现大量抢话和‘你静音了’、‘听不见你说话’这种情况。

So I think that if there are fewer people in the Zoom room, I think popcorn style can be successful. I think if you have 50 people in a meeting, I think that's where it gets Yeah. That's tough because there's gonna be a lot of talking over each other and, oh, you're on mute. Oh, turn off. I can't hear you.

什么？什么？哦，我看不见你了。哦，你卡住了对吧？

What? What? Oh, I can't see you. Oh, you're you froze. Right?

所以爆米花式讨论确实有点难度。

So popcorn style is a little harder.

确实如此。我认为这就是为什么疫情后五年，现在很多公司都在重新思考办公室时间安排，以及这段时间应该做什么。是的。

It's true. And I think this is why now post pandemic, we're five years out from the pandemic. Right? A lot of companies are now, like, really rethinking, like, time in office, what should be done during that time. Yeah.

他们正在组织静修会进行爆米花式头脑风暴，认为让员工聚在一起很有价值；或者每周固定一天在办公室办公，所有人都在场进行这种创意激发。而专注型工作更多在家完成，我觉得很多公司都是这样。是的。

They're doing retreats where they do popcorn style brainstorming, and they think that's valuable having people together, or they do once a week in office, but the same day in office. So everyone's there having this style of generating ideas. And then head down work is happening more at home, I think, for a lot of companies. Yeah.

嗯，确实。所以如果在句子里听到，有人可能会说：'好了，现在是头脑风暴时间，我们用爆米花式分享想法吧'。嗯。

Mhmm. Definitely. So, yeah, if you were to hear this in a sentence, somebody might say, okay, so it's time for some brainstorming. Let's share ideas popcorn style. Mhmm.

或者课堂上会说：'现在我们要用爆米花式阅读法读这章内容。当我点到你时，要准备好开始朗读'。真有意思，我从没听过这种说法，但确实可以这样用对吧？

Or class, we will now read this chapter using popcorn reading. Be prepared to start reading whenever I call on you. That's funny. I've never heard that one, but I suppose it could apply. Right?

有道理，你之前提到过。

It makes sense. You mentioned before.

对，对。我猜他们可能会说这是爆米花式阅读法吧。大概是的。

Yeah. Yeah. I guess they would say popcorn style reading maybe. Right. Probably.

也许不只是爆米花阅读法。我不确定。

Maybe not just popcorn reading. I don't know.

有意思。我会去了解一下爆米花阅读法。

Interesting. I'll read about popcorn.

我也会的。嗯。这非常有趣。

I will too. Mhmm. It's very interesting.

我有点好奇是谁发明了爆米花。米歇尔，我现在想知道背后的故事了。

I kinda wonder who invented popcorn. I wanna know the back story now, Michelle.

是啊，现在就想知道。我要查查这个。不过，如果你不想讨论爆米花，还有其他说法可以用，比如随机点名。

Yeah. Now yeah. We I'm gonna look this up. But, yeah, there are other ways to say this if you don't wanna talk about popcorn. You could say at random.

对吧？

Right?

是的。

Yeah.

所以我认为这更适合课堂风格，但你可以说，我会随机点名。请准备好开始阅读。

So this is I think I think this is more for, like, the classroom style personally, but you could say, I'm going to call on people at random. Please be prepared to start reading.

对，没错。更正式些，可能是更有组织的课堂风格。你说得对。另一种说法是‘开放发言’，或者‘我要开放发言权’。是的。

Right. Exactly. More formal, maybe more classroom organized class room style. You're right. Another one, the floor is open, or I'm going to open the floor Yeah.

为了集思广益。这可能是由领导者说的，主持会议的人真的很想听到你们的想法。发言权开放了。是的。嗯。

For ideas. This might be said by a leader, someone facilitating I a really want to hear your ideas. The floor is open. Yeah. Mhmm.

是的。或者‘快速发言’。我想我们讨论过这个表达。大声说出你的想法。快速发言。

Yeah. Or rapid fire. I think we've talked about this expression. Shout out your ideas. Rapid fire.

在我们必须做出决定之前，时间不多了。

We don't have that much time before we have to make a decision.

对，没错。没错。所以有几种表达方式，但关键在于，你在主持会议时，我认为人类的倾向是倾向于倾听和退后，但你要向团队发出信号，现在你要退后倾听，由他们来掌控。他们要发言了。

Right. Exactly. Exactly. So there's a few ways to say it, but the point is, you're facilitating a meeting, I think the human tendency for people is kind of just to sort of listen and sort of sit back, but you want to signal to the group that now you're going to sit back and listen, and they're going to take control. They're going to speak.

那么我们用哪些词汇来赋予他们这种能力？那种许可？对。

So what are the words we use to give them that ability? That permission? Yeah.

我非常赞同。这是预示事态发展的绝佳方式，也能让人感到安心，可以大声说出来。

I really like that. It's a very good way to signal how things are going to be going and, you know, to make people feel like, okay, it's okay. Just shout it out.

直接行动

Just go

吧。

for it.

没错，这正是领导力的体现。对吧？完全正确。

Yeah, exactly. This is the leadership skill. Right? This totally is.

是的。而且作为参与'爆米花式'头脑风暴的一员，你必须保持倾听。同时还要注意发言频率，避免主导会议。这里有很多需要考虑的因素。

Yeah. And also as somebody, then if you are one of the people involved in the popcorn style brainstorm, you know, you do have to have your ears open. I and, you know, and also, like, you have to kinda think about how often you're speaking, then you don't wanna take over the meeting. Yeah. So there's a lot to consider there.

这需要大量的自我监督。涉及声誉建设、维护颜面等诸多方面。正因如此我们才开设了商业课程和专业一级二级课程。

There's a lot of self monitoring. Right, that goes on. There's lot of reputation building, saving face. I mean, there's so much. And that's why we have our business courses, our professional level one and two.

我是说，用英语建立关系涉及的内容太多了。是的。但今天我们只做个角色扮演。好的。那么，这里我们正在为商务会议做准备。

I mean, there's so much to go into when it comes to building relationships in English. Yeah. But for today, we'll just do a role play. Alright. So, here we're preparing for a business meeting.

好的，我们开始吧。首先，我们将通过破冰游戏快速自我介绍来让团队热身。

Alright, here we go. Okay, so first we will have the team warm up by introducing themselves in an icebreaker, rapid fire.

听起来不错。然后我们会进行演示。对。

Sounds good. Then we'll give our presentation. Right.

接着我们可以开放讨论环节。

And then we can open the floor for comments.

大家可以采用爆米花式头脑风暴。好的。完美。我们会让他们随机分享想法。是的。

And people can brainstorm popcorn style. Okay. Perfect. We'll have them share their ideas at random. Yeah.

所以这里我们要主持会议，因此正在做准备。这也很重要。如果你想主持会议，必须提前花时间准备，这样才能了解大家要做什么。对吧？

So here we're gonna be facilitating the meeting, so we're getting our preparation in. That's important too. You have to if you're gonna facilitate a meeting, you need to spend some time preparing ahead of time, so you know what people are going to be doing. Yeah?

是的。是的。

Yes. Yes.

你说过，首先我们会通过快速破冰自我介绍让团队热身。

So I you said, first we'll have the team warm up by introducing themselves in an icebreaker rapid fire.

是的。这更注重速度而非顺序，真的。好的。然后你说得对，之后我们可以开放讨论环节。

Yeah. So that's more about the speed than necessarily the order, really. Okay. And then you said, right. And then we can open the floor for comments.

嗯哼。你知道的，任何想发言的人都可以畅所欲言。

So Mhmm. You know, everybody whoever wants to say something can say something.

嗯哼。然后你说我说过，大家可以采用爆米花式头脑风暴。有趣的是我们不说'以爆米花式'或'用爆米花式'——我们这里完全没有介词，很奇怪对吧。

Mhmm. And then you said I said, and people can brainstorm popcorn style. It's kind of interesting that we don't say in popcorn style or using popcorn We literally have no preposition there. It's weird. Right.

我们想说对。我们通常就说头脑风暴，做某事爆米花式就是这样的

We wanted to say yeah. We would just say brainstorm, do the do something popcorn style is how

我们的做法。不过确实挺奇怪的。

we do it. It's strange though.

有意思的是，'开放讨论'和'爆米花式'本质上是同一回事。但爆米花式确实更能传达快速轮转的感觉对吧？而开放讨论可能允许更长的发言。

And it's interesting because open the floor and popcorn style are essentially the same thing. But popcorn style I do think gives more of an idea of like quick, quick. Right? We're just you know, open the floor could be longer comments.

确实如此。然后你最后说的是‘好的，完美’。我们会让他们随机分享想法。对，随机。没错。

That's true. And then the last thing you said was okay, perfect. We will have them share their ideas at random. Yeah, at random. Right.

好的。是的。这里真的很棒。各位，如果你们还没听过，第四八零期节目讲的是如何在工作中运用真实框架达成妥协。那是我和奥布里一起录制的。

Okay. Yeah. So really good here. Guys, if you haven't already, out episode four eighty that was how to use the real framework to compromise at work. That's an episode I did with Aubrey.

那里面的内容非常实用。

Really useful stuff there.

是的。非常棒的内容。好内容。那么米歇尔，最后的要点是什么？我是说，我们已经回答了阿尔贝托的问题。

Yeah. Really good stuff. Good stuff. So Michelle, what's the final takeaway? I mean, we answered Alberto's question.

顺便说一句，这是个很好的问题。今天还有什么想送给听众的吗？

Great question, by the way. Anything else we want to give our listeners today?

是的。只是这是一种不同层次的思考，什么是有用的？如果你在主持会议，那么让人们互动、表达想法最有用的方式是什么？是爆米花式发言？还是简单地轮流发言？

Yeah. Just this is just a different level of thinking, well, what's useful? If you're leading a meeting, right, what is gonna be the most useful way of getting people to interact, to be able to say their ideas? Is it popcorn style? Is it more just going around the room?

因为每种情况可能都不同。只要思考什么会最有用，你希望这个意义如何传递，以及你想要什么

Because it can be different for everything. Just think about it would be the most useful and how you want that meaning to go and what do you want it

看起来很棒。太棒了。米歇尔，今天表现不错。我们很快会再联系。祝你今天剩下的时间愉快。

to look like. Excellent. Good stuff today, Michelle. We'll talk to you very soon. You have a good rest of your day.

各位，还有一件事。记得报名参加发音课程。网址是allearsenglish.com/pronunciation。好吗？太棒了。

Guys, one don't more thing. Get on the list for the pronunciation course. Allearsenglish.com/pronunciation. Alright? Awesome.

好的。

Alright.

祝你愉快。

Have a good one.

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