幻想体育惩罚：999

大家好。欢迎回到《吃你的克雷斯特》播客。我是Jisoo。

Hi. Welcome back to Eat Your Crest podcast. I'm Jisoo.

我是Crystal。我是Katie。

I'm Crystal. I'm Katie.

我是Jimin。

And I'm Jimin.

上次我们和Geminon聊了梦幻体育的话题。实际上，这次我们将继续这个对话，并邀请Katie作为额外嘉宾，因为我们有一个非常有趣的活动。我们都参与/观看了这个活动，也就是梦幻足球的输家惩罚。Jisoo、Katie和我在一个联盟，Jimin在另一个联盟。碰巧的是，今年我们两个联盟的惩罚是一样的，就是九九九挑战。

So the last time that we had Geminon, talked about fantasy sports. And actually, this time we'll be continuing that conversation with Katie as an added guest because we had a very fun activity. We all partook in slash spectated, which is the loser punishment for fantasy football. Jisoo, Katie, and I are in one league, and Jimin is in another league. And it just so happens that both of our leagues had the same punishment this year, which is the nine ninety nine challenge.

我想说，我们有幸在两个月内看了两次这个挑战。我们觉得邀请Katie和Jimin来聊聊他们参与挑战的经历、可能学到的一些策略，以及给未来可能不得不做这个挑战的人一些建议会很有趣。那么，首先我们来谈谈九九九到底是什么。

We had the pleasure, I guess, of watching it happen two times within two months. We thought it would be fun to bring Katie and Jimin on to talk about their experience doing the challenge, some strategies they might have picked up, and maybe tips for anyone who ends up having to do this challenge in the future. So to start us off, let's talk about what nine ninety nine exactly is.

三个九基本上意味着在九局或一场标准棒球比赛的时间内，喝九杯啤酒，吃九个热狗。规则是输家必须在比赛结束前消耗完这18样东西。按照九九九的严格规则，通常是每局喝一杯啤酒、吃一个热狗。不过，我觉得也有变体，基本上只要在比赛结束前全部吃完喝完就行。你知道，这个挑战几年前开始流行起来，然后我们稍后可能会谈到的一个额外转折是，MLB规则的调整可能让这个挑战变得比最初设想的要难得多。

So three nines basically mean nine beers, nine hot dogs in the span of nine innings or, like, a standard baseball game. The idea is the loser has to consume all 18 items by the end of the game. By the strict rules of nine nine nine, it's usually one beer and one hot dog every inning. However, I think there's been variations where it basically boils down to just finishing it all by the end of the game. I think it's you know, it really picked up some steam a couple years ago, and then and an added twist that we might talk about later, right, is the with tweaks to the MLB rules that has made this challenge maybe a lot harder than it originally intended to be.

Jimin，你能详细说说吗？我听说过规则的变化，也知道棒球比赛，尤其是比赛时长，和我们小时候相比现在看起来大不相同。但你认为有哪些变化影响了九九九挑战？

Can you elaborate on that, Jimin? I have heard of what the changes are and how baseball, especially in terms of, like, duration of the game, looks a lot different from when we were younger versus now. But what are some of the changes that you think impact September?

最大的变化是引入了投球计时器，对吧？所以我觉得过去比赛时间超级长，动不动就三个多小时，甚至四个小时。所以我认为为了保持观众的参与度，他们增加了这个投球计时器，某种程度上加快了投球节奏，让每局进行得更快。我不怎么关注棒球，但一些体育应用会有集锦或新闻之类的。

The big one was, like, the added the pitch clock. Right? So I think in the past, games used to just run super, super long, like, three plus hours, four hours even. And so I think in an attempt to maybe keep the viewers more engaged, they added this pitch clock, which sort of, you know, speeds up the pitching and in a sense makes the innings go faster. I don't really follow baseball all that much, but, you know, some of the sporting apps, they'll have these, you know, highlights or news or something.

所以当999惩罚规则实施后大概几周，我收到一条推送，说人们震惊于一场棒球比赛竟然在两小时内结束了。于是你就意识到，天哪，我们可能得在两小时内吃完所有东西。现在必须把时间因素考虑进去了。

And so when the nine nine nine was implemented as, like, the punishment, maybe a few weeks later, I got this notification where people were sort of blown away that a baseball game ended in under two hours. And so, you know, you sort of see that. You're like, oh, shoot. We gotta eat all these things in potentially under two hours. You have to keep this time thing in consideration now.

另一个变化是，有些体育场——我记得我的场次有但Katie的没有——在第七局左右停止供应食品和酒精饮料。所以如果你需要的话，就得提前囤货。这意味着要考察球场布局并提前计划。

And another thing which happened, I think, for for mine, but not for Katie's, was that some stadiums implement sort of a we stop serving food and or alcohol after, like, the seventh inning. So now you have to think about stockpiling your stuff ahead of time if you need to. So that'll involve, like, you know, scouting some of your stadium logistics and planning ahead.

我在想是否要策略性地选择球队，因为记得Jim和你的比赛特别短，大概就两小时十五分钟左右。Katie的则稍长些。我当时还想，Katie真会选队，可能故意选了场时间长的比赛。另外我觉得Katie很聪明的一点是，999活动当天早上，她和Avi起床做了大概80个热狗。

I also wonder if you wanna be strategic about the teams that you pick because I remember for Jim and your game, the game was really short. I remember it was maybe, like, two hours and fifteen minutes or something. Then for Katie's, it was slightly longer. And I was like, damn, Katie did a good job picking the teams to maybe go for a longer game or something like that. And then the other thing that I thought was great and strategic for Katie's was morning of nine ninety nine, Katie and Avi woke up and cooked, I wanna say like 80 hot dogs or something.

Katie，要不要说说当时为什么决定这么做？

So Katie, do you wanna talk about like what went on behind that decision?

其实我们选那场比赛主要是时间合适而且票价最便宜。我们就想看哪场票便宜，这样大家能一起买票更方便。至于热狗，因为联盟里很多人都想参与，我们就决定买一大堆热狗让大家都能吃。这样就不用按个付钱——具体多少钱我也不知道，因为我们没单买。所以提前几天从Costco买了72个热狗和一大堆面包。

So actually we were looking at the games and we mainly chose that one because it worked at the timing and it was the cheapest tickets. So we were like seeing like which game would be cheaper tickets so we can all just get tickets together and it would be easy. For the hot dogs, yeah, I guess since a lot of people in our league wanted to participate as well, we looked into buying a ton of hot dogs so we could all do it. So we won't have to, like, pay I don't know how much it is because we didn't have to buy any per hot dog. So we bought, like, 72 hot dogs from Costco and, like, a bunch of buns a couple days before.

说实话煮的时候我就想，哇闻起来真香，好想吃一个。Jimmy还一直问'我们能吃一个吗？能吃一个吗？'，然后我们就说'不行，Jimmy'。

Honestly, when we're cooking it, I was like, wow, this smells really good. I could really go for a hot dog. And I think Jimmy was like, should we eat one? Should we eat one? And then and then we're like, no, Jimmy.

就像，我们做这件事时每一分钱都很重要。如果我们吃了它，我们真的会后悔的。幸运的是，就像洋基体育场一样，他们允许自带食物。所以是的。而且我们所有人都很容易就把热狗带进去了。

Like, every bit counts when we're doing it. We're gonna really regret it if we eat it. Luckily for us, like Yankee Stadium, they allow you to bring in food. So yeah. And it was pretty easy for all of us to bring in the hot dogs.

所以那真是太棒了。

So that was great.

天啊。那真是太疯狂了。我们朋友群里大概总共10到12个人去看了比赛，我们每个人都拿着一袋七八个热狗，就那样随身带着。我们走过安检，甚至没人多看一眼。

Oh my god. It was such a crazy thing. Was it, like, a total of maybe 10 to 12 people attended the game as, like, our friend group, and we each held a bag of seven to eight hot dogs just, like, with us. And we walked through security. No one even batted an eye.

但我记得当我们都下了

But I remember when we all got off

地铁站时，我们每人被发了一加仑大小的密封袋装的热狗，计划就像是，好吧伙计们，分开行动。

the subway station, we were each handed that gallon sized ziplock of hot dogs and the plan was like, okay guys, split up.

我们不知道他们这里会有多严格。如果我们带着大约80个热狗进去可能会很可疑，所以每个人都去不同的入口。当我们走过金属探测器时，我的心怦怦直跳，他们还在检查我们的包。对我来说还好一点，因为我拿着手提包，所以密封袋不那么明显，但詹姆斯什么都没带，他就那样 clutching 那袋热狗走过去，我当时想，我们要

We don't know how strict they're gonna be here. Might be sus if we walk in with like 80 hot dogs, everyone go to a different entrance. And my heart was like pounding as we walked through the metal detector thing, and they were like peering through our bags. And it was a little bit more okay for me because I had like a handbag, so the ziplock is less obvious, but James didn't bring anything so he was just like walking through clutching that bag of hot dogs and I was like, we're

惹上麻烦了。但一切都很顺利。实际上大部分热狗都被吃掉了。

gonna get in trouble. But it was all fine. Most of the hot dogs were consumed actually.

是啊，我觉得特别有趣的是大家都想参与进来，和凯蒂一起尝试。但搞笑的是，我告诉了一个不在我们联盟的朋友，他们就说，这惩罚有什么意义？他们说，如果大家都在做，那还算惩罚吗？

Yeah I thought it was really fun that everyone wanted to participate and try along with Katie. But the funny thing is, I told one of my friends that, who's not in our league, and they were like, what's the point of the punishment? They're like, if everyone's doing it, is that even a punishment?

没错，我是觉得大家一起做这件事真的很有趣，而且我觉得这归根结底就像梦幻体育为什么这么好玩一样，因为每周你都能和朋友在线共度时光，或者大家一起看比赛。这是你们之间增进感情的共同话题。所以，大家陪我一起参与，我真的很开心，也觉得特别有趣。

Yeah, I mean, I feel like it was really fun that we all got to do it together, and I think it kind of boils down to like why fantasy is so fun because it's really like every week you kind of get to spend time with your friends online or like everyone's watching the games together. It's like a common thing that you guys bond over. So yeah, I thought that was really fun that everybody participated with me and I was really happy about that.

是啊。说实话，大家能这么团结地说‘我们一起做吧’，真的很暖心。

Yeah. I was honestly very wholesome of everyone to be like, let's do it.

我觉得詹姆斯 somehow 没通知我就给我报名了。克里斯托尔说，是啊，你在名单上了。我当时就想，好吧，看来我们又来一次了。

I think somehow James signed me up without notifying me. Crystal's like, yeah. You're on the roster for it. I was I was like, okay. I guess we're doing it again.

我就说，是啊，他们正在给我们做热狗呢。

I'm like, yeah. They're making our hot dogs right now.

詹姆斯在我参加惩罚的另一个联盟里也有份。所以我们俩都做了，然后我们在那个群聊里汇报了数字。他们的普遍反应是，等等，你们又做这个了？是为了好玩吗？我就说，詹姆斯和我就是，嗯，是啊。

So James is also in the other league that I'm in for this punishment. So we we both did it, and then we reported our numbers back to that group chat. And the general response from them was like, wait. You did this again, like, for fun? Or she's I was like, James and I are just like, yeah.

联盟分两种类型。有两种类型。

There's two types of leagues. There's two types.

是的。我记得因为凯蒂和阿比当时在统计热狗数量。她们说，好吧，谁要参加这个挑战？然后詹姆斯就直接替Jimin报名了，他说了些类似的话，哦，Jimin说他愿意再试一次。

Yeah. I remember because Katie and Abi were getting the hot dog count. They're like, alright. Who's, you know, doing this challenge? And then James just volunteered Jimin and I was like he I he said something like, oh, Jimin said he's down to try again.

我看了那条消息，心想，Jimin真的这么说了吗？

And I looked at that message and I was like, did Jimin say this?

我和詹姆斯聊天时，他说，是的，Jimin想再试一次，因为你知道，在上一次挑战的最后，我觉得他本可以做得更多。所以我认为他想尝试完成。我说，好吧，酷。

When I was talking to James, he was like, yeah, Jimin wants to try again because, you know, at the end of the other one, I feel like he could have done more. So I think he wants to try to finish. I was like, okay. Cool.

Jimin说，这对我来说是新闻，但我愿意。是的。

Jimin's like, this is news to me, but I'm down. Yeah.

我得说，我们买了票，这样我们所有人都坐在一排。这很有趣，因为我差不多坐在那一排的边上。每过大约十分钟，我就会低头看看大家怎么样了。每次我顺着那一排看过去，人们手里都拿着热狗，或者啤酒，眼神呆滞地望着远方，明显很痛苦。我

I will say, so we bought tickets so that we were all seated in like one long row together. And it was so funny because I was sort of on like the edge of the row. Every like ten minutes, I would look down to see how everyone was doing. And every time I looked down the row, people had like a hotdog in their hand, like a beer in their hand, were like staring off into the distance visibly in pain. I was

心想，老兄，真不敢相信

like, dude, I can't believe this

这就是我们周六早上都在做的事情。

is what we're all doing on like a Saturday morning.

但我觉得自带热狗另一个很聪明的地方在于，你可以统一热狗的尺寸。因为在这之前的几个月，我去旧金山看棒球赛时，一直盯着别人吃热狗——那玩意儿太大了。我估计得有10英寸那么长吧。

But another thing that I thought was really smart about bringing our own hot dogs in was that you can actually standardize the size of the hot dogs. Because a couple months prior to this, had gone to a baseball game in San Francisco and I was staring at someone eating a hot dog because that thing was huge. It must have been, I don't know, like a 10 inch hot dog.

天啊。

Oh my god.

我当时就想，Katie和Jimin怎么可能吃得下九个这种东西？

I was like, how are Katie and Jimin gonna eat nine of these things?

但我觉得家里做的热狗通常比较小，不像体育场卖的那种巨型尺寸。所以我觉得这点特别聪明。另一个有趣的地方是啤酒的规格——在我们和Katie、Crystal的联盟里，统一采用330毫升的小罐啤酒。

But I think the hot dogs that you can make from home tend to be kind of smaller. They're not like stadium sized. So I thought that was super smart. The other thing that I think is interesting is the size of the beers. One beer in our league with Katie and Crystal, we standardized to like the 330 mil can.

比如说，如果去体育场只卖大杯啤酒，你可以按比例折算成小罐的数量。但我

So for example, if you go to the stadium and they only sell the big beers, you can kind of prorate them to the count of like the small can. But I

觉得Jimin的联盟规则更严格些，他们是按实际数量计算的。

think for Jimin's League, they were a little bit more strict. So they did it by unit count.

啤酒不允许按比例折算，这就有点夸张了。

The beers weren't prorated, which is a little crazy.

没错。得说说那些混蛋。我当时问，这种大罐啤酒能不能算两罐？然后有个人就说，可以啊，如果你喝两罐的话。

Yeah. Shout out those assholes. I was like, it's like, can one of these tall boys count as two? And then one guy was just like, yeah. If you drink two of them.

这也很离谱，因为那个联盟里没人能做到999，但他们对此要求特别严格。

Which is also crazy because no one in that league could do nine nine nine, and they're so strict about it.

等等。那你最后喝了那种大罐啤酒吗？还是

Wait. So did you end up drinking, like, the tall boys? Or

因为我们没有提前准备，所以就试着在开门的时候去找最小罐的啤酒和尺寸最合理的热狗。我记得找到的大概是16或18盎司的罐装，是最小的了，我们就尽量喝这种，而不是24盎司的大罐。就像Jisoo说的，热狗有不同尺寸，我们就选了比较合理的，而不是那种一英尺长的10英寸大汉堡。

So what we tried to do since for mine, we didn't premake or anything. So we ended up going sort of right around when the gates open to look for the smallest possible cans and most reasonable sized hot dogs. I think we found 16 or 18 ounce cans were probably the smallest ones they had, and so we tried to just drink those versus, like, a 24 ounce. Like Jisoo said, there were several different sizes of hot dogs, so we just went for sort of the more reasonable sized ones compared to, like, these foot long 10 inch ones that yeah.

我们找到了一些标着儿童尺寸的热狗。

We found some that were kid sized or labeled as kid sized.

对。标是标了，但尺寸和普通的没区别。所以

Yeah. They were labeled, but they were the same size as standard ones. So

是啊。打开一看，我们就觉得这看起来就是普通热狗。我记得因为Jisoo、我、Jimin和James提前到了一会儿，我们在侦察，就像Jimin说的。一找到那些儿童热狗，我们就说，好了，别让其他人买这些热狗。

Yeah. When we opened them, we're like, this looks like a normal hot dog. I remember because Jisoo, me, Jimin, and James got there a little bit early, and we were scouting as Jimin said. Once we found those, like, kid hotdogs, we're like, alright. Don't let anyone else buy these hotdogs.

只派我们四个人中的一个去

Only send one of us four

买这些热狗

to buy these hot dogs

因为谁知道别人会买什么。所以我们有那样的策略。我记得有人提出要给Jimin买啤酒，我们说，好吧。买这个。Mikkelov Ultra小罐装的。

because who knows what anyone else would buy. So we had certain strategies like that. I think someone offered to buy a beer for Jimin, and we're like, alright. Get this one. The Mikkelov Ultra slightly smaller can.

然后他们说，不行。我要给他买最大罐的。我们就说，等等。妈的。不能再让任何人给他买啤酒了。

And they're like, no. I'm gonna get him the biggest can. And we're like, wait. Fuck. We can't let anyone buy him beers anymore.

太坏了。而且他们甚至没跟你们一起。

That's evil. And they didn't even do it with you.

都是好朋友啊。

Big friends, all of them.

是的。我觉得Crystal、我和James最后确实运送了相当多的热狗和啤酒，这是个好策略，因为我们三个人可以轮流来。所以热狗和啤酒就源源不断地送来。但我想谈谈其他策略。我记得一开始Jimin说过，做九块九的经典形式是每局都做一个热狗配一杯啤酒。

Yeah. I think Crystal, me, and James did end up shuttling like a decent amount of the hot dogs and beers, which is a great strategy because we also had the three of us to kind of rotate through. So then there was a constant stream of hot dogs and beers coming. But I wanna talk about other strategies. I think in the beginning, Jimin said that the classic form of doing nine ninety nine is to always do the one dog, one beer per inning.

但是你们还有什么其他策略来尽量跟上节奏，或者确保在比赛过程中胃部感觉良好吗？

But are there any other strategies that you guys try to do to kind of keep pace or make sure that your stomachs are feeling okay throughout the game?

我选择先尽量多吃，因为就我个人而言，我不喜欢也不能喝太多酒还能保持状态。所以我的目标就是，好吧，我至少要完成两种食物中的一种达到九份。我觉得我能吃很多，所以我想，没问题。

I opted to eat as much as I can first just because I think me personally, I don't like to or nor can I drink, like, an excessive amount and still be okay? So my goal was just like, alright. I need to hit at least nine of one of the two. So I think I could eat a lot. So I think, okay.

我可以很轻松地吃掉九个热狗。所以我打算先努力达到九个热狗，然后之后再尽可能多喝啤酒。我们到得挺早，先填饱肚子，吃了三个热狗和一杯啤酒。就坐在那里等着第一球开赛。第一球一开始，我就把三个热狗全塞进嘴里，尽快吃完。

I can eat nine hot dogs pretty easily. So I'm just gonna try to hit nine there and then do as much as I possibly can with the beers afterward. For mine, we got there pretty early, loaded up, you know, got, like, three hot dogs and one beer. Just sat there waiting for the first pitch to go off. And once the first pitch went off, I just shoved all three, like, into my mouth and just tried to finish as quickly as possible.

同时也慢慢用啤酒把它们冲下去。所以我基本上是分批次进行，每次吃三个热狗。每当有人说要去拿东西时，我就说，能帮我拿三个吗？回来再吃三个。我就坐在那里，盯着看两秒钟，然后继续吃。

Just was trying to wash it down with the beer over time too. So I'd go in, like, sprints basically of, like, three hot dogs at a time. So whenever someone's like, oh, I'm gonna go up, I was like, can you grab me three? Come back to three. And I just sit there and, like, stare for two seconds and then just keep going.

所以我的策略基本上就是，我至少要完成一种食物的九份。我知道我可能在喝完九杯啤酒之前就能塞下九个热狗。

So that was basically my my approach was I I wanna get at least nine of one down. I knew I could probably pack the nine hot dogs in before I packed in nine beers.

一开始，我的策略可能是每种都来一点，然后慢慢推进。我想着，好吧，也许我先吃三个热狗，喝几杯啤酒，然后再吃些热狗，再喝些啤酒。但实际操作时，吃了两个热狗并开始喝酒后，我在想如果再吃一个热狗，我可能就喝不下去了。所以真正开始后，我和梅丽莎开始四处走动，我觉得这很有帮助，然后这就开启了一个新策略。

Going in, I think my strategy was that I could also maybe do, like, a couple of each and then slowly like progress. So I was like thinking, okay, maybe I'll do three hot dogs and I'll do like a couple beers and then I'll do some more hot dogs and like some more beers. But I think as I was doing it, after I ate two hot dogs and started drinking, I was thinking that if I ate another hot dog, like I don't know if I could drink anymore. So I think when it actually went down, we started walking around like me and Melissa, And I think that helped a lot. And then that kind of unlocked this new strategy.

就是，哦，我就四处走走，绕圈。我觉得这确实很有帮助。所以我吃了两个热狗，然后喝完了最后两杯啤酒。挺难的，但完成后，我就想，好吧，然后我就尽量多吃热狗。因为我已经快喝完啤酒了。

Was like, oh, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna walk around and like do laps. And I think that actually helped a lot. So I think I did two hot dogs and then I did all the beers for the last two beers. It was pretty tough, but after I finished it, was like, okay, then I'll just like do as many hot dogs as I could. Because I was getting like pretty close to the beer.

所以我就想，好吧，让我先把啤酒喝完，然后我们再看看热狗怎么办。是的，四处走动真的帮了大忙。我觉得这就是我能够喝完大部分啤酒的主要原因。

So was like, okay, let me just like finish the beers and then we'll see what we can do with the hot dogs. So yeah, the walking around helped a ton. I think that's how I was mostly able to finish most of the beers.

说得有道理。我没有走动。我觉得我应该多活动一下，但我们的票，我觉得，不像洋基队的票那么理想。我们有点被困在了看台中间，所以走动起来比较困难。不过最后我还是稍微走了走，确实有帮助。

That's a good point. I didn't walk around. I feel like I should have moved around more, but our tickets, I think, weren't as optimal as as as the Yankee's ones. We were kinda stuck, I think, in the middle of a section, so it was hard harder to move around. But I did end up walking a little bit at the end, and it it did help.

我觉得到这期节目结束的时候，我们会发现凯蒂的策略确实更胜一筹。

I I think by the end of this episode, we'll find that Katie did have the superior strategy.

另外，我觉得我们在旧金山看的那场比赛，太阳火辣辣地照着我们，我不知道你们怎么样，但我太热的时候就不想吃东西。嗯。所以我觉得走动的时候，你是在阴凉处。希望会凉快一点。可能在这方面也有帮助。

Also, I feel like for the game that we did in SF, the sun was, like, beating down on us, which I don't know about you guys, but when I'm too hot, I don't wanna eat. Mhmm. So I feel like walking, you're, like, in the shade. It's hopefully a little cooler. Probably also helped in that factor.

因为我们纽约的那场比赛虽然不是特别晴朗，但还是非常热。嗯。有点闷热。

Because our New York game was it wasn't super sunny, but it was still really hot. Mhmm. It was, like, kinda muggy.

是啊。那天超级潮湿。记得四处走动帮了大忙。这完全不是我事先计划的策略，但梅丽莎说应该走走。我当时还想，等等。

Yeah. It was super humid that day. Remember the walking around helped a lot. That was not my strategy going in at all, but then Melissa was like, should walk around. I was like, wait.

这真是太——这太天才了。

That's such a that's genius.

不过真的很好笑，因为我总是会

It was so funny though, because I would

做我的玫瑰扫描，然后我总会想，哥们，凯蒂去哪儿了？就像，我

like do my rose scans and I would always be like, dude, where's Katie? Like, I

从第二局开始就没见过她了。等等。对。当你重新出现时，你说，是啊，我喝了大概六杯啤酒。我们就问，你刚才去哪儿了？

haven't seen her since the second inning. Wait. Yeah. When you reappeared and you're like, yeah, my count is like six beers. We're like, Where have you been?

谁见证了那些啤酒？

Who witnessed the beers?

我当时就想，别告诉他们。别透露我们的策略。我们必须赢。我们需要优势。继续走，继续走。

I was like I was like, don't tell them. Don't tell them our strategy. We must win. We need our edge. Keep walking, keep walking.

这特别搞笑，因为我们想，好吧，找斜坡吧，这样就不用走楼梯了，斜坡完美，因为你可以悠闲地上下走动。所以我们最后找到了离我们区域最近的斜坡，就这么上上下下，太棒了。这招很管用。

And it was so funny because we're like, okay, let's find the ramp so we don't have to go down the stairs because the ramp is perfect because you can just kind of like saunter up and down. So we ended up finding this ramp that was closest to our section and we're just going up and down and it was great. It worked.

好的。我有个问题想问你们，我觉得在29999期间大家争论过。显然，当你们吃下所有这些热狗时，胃里每一平方毫米的空间都很宝贵。但同时，你的嘴巴开始对热狗感到厌倦了，对吧？

Okay. I have like a question for you guys that I think was kind of debated during the two nine ninety nine's. So obviously, as you're consuming all these hot dogs, every square millimeter of stomach space counts. But at the same time, your mouth starts to get bored with the hot dogs. Right?

那你们有没有在热狗上加调料呢？如果有的话，策略是什么？每次都加同样的调料吗？还是说比如一个芥末狗一个番茄酱狗？你们是怎么换着花样来的？

So did you guys put condiments on your hot dogs? And if so, what was the strategy? Same kinds of condiments each time? Or did you have like a mustard dog and a ketchup dog? Like how'd you kind of switch it up?

对我来说很不幸，我觉得我任何热狗都没加调料，有点遗憾，但我记得第一年的时候就是想着，好吧，赶紧吃完就行。而且我当时还没进体育场。比赛开始时我才刚开始吃，因为我在停车场。然后最后几个热狗就纯粹追求速度了。我们就是，就是直接吞下去。

Unfortunately for me, I don't think I put any condiments on any of my hot dogs, which was kind of sad, but I think my first year, was just like, alright, let's just get this down. And I wasn't in the stadium yet. Like I started right when the game started, because I was in the parking lot. And then I think like the last couple of dogs, was just going for speed. We just, we just get them down.

没加调料。我甚至都不知道那时候调料放在哪儿了，我觉得。

No condiments. I don't even know where the condiments were at that point, I think.

是的。我觉得我差不多也一样。我的第一波热狗是没有加调料的。然后到了大概第六个的时候，我需要稍微换点花样。所以在巨人队的比赛时——这其实算是个问题，我觉得。

Yeah. I think sort of same. I think for mine, the first salvo was no condiments. And then by, like, the sixth one, I needed to change it up a little bit. So at the Giants game and this is, like, kind of the issue, I think.

但甲骨文公园其实除了热狗之外，还有很多很棒的小吃。所以我们刚进去的时候，Crystal和GC你们俩，哦，螃蟹三明治和大蒜薯条。我就坐在那儿想，妈的。我真的很想尝尝，但是，我不能浪费胃的空间。闻起来太香了。

But Oracle Park actually has really good concession food outside of hot dogs. And so when we were, like, first going in, Crystal and GC, you guys, oh, crab sandwiches and garlic fries. I'm just sitting here like, fuck. I really wanna try this, but, like, I can't waste stomach space. It smells so good.

等等。但你最后还是吃了一些吧。

Wait. But you did end up eating some.

我最后还是吃了一小口。我当时就想，哦，好吧。我得，我得再来一次。

I did end up eating, like, one bite. I was like, oh, okay. I gotta I gotta come back.

还有薯条。我吃了一根。

And some fries too. I had one.

那一根可以忽略不计。但到最后，是的，我觉得我得问Crystal或其他人，比如，你能去拿点番茄酱和芥末来调味吗？所以在纽约，我们更早用上了调味品。所以Abi和我，我们就拿了个托盘，装满了番茄酱和芥末。洋基体育场居然还有蜂蜜芥末，我就拿了一点尝尝看涂在热狗上是什么味道。

That's one is negligible. But towards the end, yeah, I I think I had to, like, ask Crystal or someone, like, can you go grab some ketchup and mustard just to, like, spice things up? So I think for New York, we employed condiments much earlier. So Abi and I, like, we just got, like, a tray and just loaded up all the ketchup, mustard. They actually had honey mustard at the Yankee Stadium too, so I just got a little bit just to try what that'd be like on a hot dog.

可能不会再那样做了。但它确实增加了一些变化。

And probably wouldn't do that again. But it it it made some variety.

老兄，还有更离谱的是，在旧金山的巨人队球场，我问他们要个托盘，好让我能倒一堆调味料上去。每个人都说，抱歉，我们不能给你那个。你得买点东西才行。还有杯子，我问能不能给我个水杯之类的？他们也说不行。

Dude, also what's crazy is in the Giants Arena in SF, I asked them for, like, a tray so that I could just dump a bunch of condiments on it. Everyone was like, sorry, we can't give you that. Like, you have to buy something. Also, for cups, was like, can you give me, like, a water cup or something? They're like, no.

抱歉。我们其实对这些东西有库存管理，这是我们统计销售额的方式之一，或者说是部分方式。我就说，好吧，再见。但在洋基体育场，他们直接就发托盘。

Sorry. We actually keep inventory of these and it's how we keep count of, like, sales or, like, partially one of the ways we keep count of sales. And I was like, okay. Bye. But then in the Yankee Stadium, they were just giving out trays.

我当时就想，搞什么鬼？为什么在旧金山要个托盘这么难？旧金山管得太严了。但我们就想，妈的，我们一伙人买了九个热狗和九杯啤酒。好歹通融一下嘛。

And I was like, what the heck? Why was it so hard for me to get a tray in in SF? They're strict in SF. But it's like, damn, our posse bought, like, nine hot dogs and nine beers. Like, cut us some slack.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。拜托，给我们匀一个托盘吧。

Yeah. Like, spare us one tray, please.

我记得我当时特别震惊，因为我们一坐下，就像Jimin说的，Avi已经拿着一个托盘了。我当时心想，天啊，你从哪儿弄来的？我们还没人买任何东西呢。他说，我就是开口要了一个。

I remember I was so shocked because once we sat down, like Jimin said, Avi already had a tray. And I was like, oh my god. Where'd you get that? Like, none of us bought anything yet. He was like, I just asked for one.

我当时想，你是认真的吗？

I was like, are you serious right now?

其实在纽约那场比赛中还出现了另一个秘密策略，是那些家伙想出来的，用来消除啤酒里的碳酸，因为之前有人抱怨过，对吧？比如啤酒气泡太多，很容易饱，怎么才能喝下这么多酒精？然后有个家伙拿了根吸管过来，他说，兄弟，相信我

There's actually another secret strategy that came up during the New York game, which was actually something that the guys came up to kill the carbonation of the beer because that was one of the complaints, right? Like it's so carbonated, you're so full, how are you getting all this alcohol down? And one of the guys pulled up with a straw, He was like, dude, trust

，这会有帮助的。然后他开始往啤酒里吹气泡，

me, this is gonna help. And he started blowing bubbles in

同时用吸管小口小口地喝啤酒。这样你就不用仰头猛灌，猜测这是阻力最小的方式，就像更容易啜饮一样。那个家伙最后真的喝完了全部九杯啤酒和九个热狗。所以如果你们再参加一次，你们觉得吸管策略会有用吗？还是觉得消除碳酸不值得？

his beer and also using the straw to like keep sipping at the beer. So you're not like tipping your head back, guess least resistant to the movement, just like easier to sip. And that guy actually went on to finish all nine beers and all nine hot dogs. So if you guys were to do this again, do you think the straw strategy would help or are you like, it's not worth it to cut the carbonation?

不，吸管策略确实帮我喝完了啤酒，因为我觉得在我喝最后几杯的时候，确实遇到了Eddie、Nathan和Josephine，他们说，伙计们，试试这个策略。然后我们觉得，哦，有点恶心。但是，嗯，我们会试试的。结果它真的非常非常有用。没有碳酸之后，你确实可以更快地喝下更多啤酒。

No, the straw strategy actually did help me finish my beers because I think at my last couple of beers, did run into Eddie and Nathan and Josephine and they're like, guys, out this strategy. And then we're like, oh, that's kinda gross. But, like, yeah, we'll try it. And it actually really, really did help. Without the carbonation, you can kinda just, like, drink a lot more of the beer faster.

所以，这是个不错的策略，虽然有点恶心。

So, that is a good strategy, although it's a little gross.

哥们，我听下来的意思是，因为纽约有这么多人参加，所以冒出了这么多不同的策略，最终都很有帮助。

Dude, all I'm hearing is that because we had so many people doing it in New York, it's like so many different strategies came out, which were ultimately all very helpful.

没错。太对了。

Yeah. That's so true.

我讨厌这些新策略让我现在想第三次尝试这个。我当时就想，哥们，给啤酒排气？天才。顺序呢？

I hate that all these new strategies make me wanna try this for, like, a third time now. I was like, dude, degassing your beer? Genius. The order?

天才。天才。

Genius. Genius.

哦，对。确实。二月份之后，Jimin和我在复盘。我们就想，哦，可能先吃热狗不太理想，因为之后喝啤酒会让面包在胃里膨胀。嗯哼。

Oh, yeah. That's true. After the February, Jimin and I were debriefing. And we were like, oh, I guess, like, eating the hot dogs first is not as ideal because then when you drink the beer after, it expands the bread in your stomach. Mhmm.

也许你完成得就没那么多。但如果你一开始就喝得很醉，然后，你知道，酒后来点小吃，你就愿意之后吃东西了。嗯哼。嗯哼。所以我们想，如果你要第三次做这个，提醒你，新策略会是什么？

Maybe you just don't get as much done. But if you just get really drunk in the beginning, then like, drunchies, you know, you just you're down to eat after. Mhmm. Mhmm. So we were like, if you were to do this again for the third time, mind you, what would be the new strategy?

我肯定会像凯蒂那样做，并且提前加入脱气步骤。

I would definitely do what Katie did and then add in the degassing early.

也许我们得做第三次。琼，我认为你得做第三次。

Maybe we have to do it for a third time. June, I think you have to do it for for a third time.

为了科学。

For science.

是的。

Yeah.

不过我想我说过如果我要做的话，我会在家里做。你可以把游戏开着。

I think I said if I did it, I'd do it at home, though. You could put the game on.

没必要花那么多钱。每瓶啤酒都要20美元左右。

No need to spend all that money. Every beer was, like, $20.

20美元。是的。是的。

$20. Yeah. Yeah.

就把走步机拿出来吧。

Just get the walking pad out.

没必要，比如说，做

No need to, like, do

笑。所以

laughs. So

老兄，我们这儿什么都有。

dude, we got everything here.

其实我也很随意地尝试了尝试了那个99999，九，但我当时非常，就是，没什么动力。所以我就试着每局喝一杯啤酒、吃一个热狗，我觉得这是个不错的策略，但到某个时候，一切就开始失控了，就像所有事情都在离我而去，因为突然这一局可能只有两分钟，或者你知道某一局可能长达十分钟，这会给你一种虚假的安全感。最后我大概做了四四。那时候我就想，算了，随便吧。我跟不上这些局的节奏了，我就放松一下吧。

I actually also very casually attempted attempted the the 99999, nine, but I was very, like, not motivated. So I just tried to do it the one beer, one hot dog per inning, which I feel like is a fine strategy, but at some point, it started just slipping, like everything was slipping away from me because suddenly this inning was like two minutes, or you know this one inning was maybe like ten minutes and it gave gives you a false sense of security. I ended up doing like four-four. At that time I was just like, yeah whatever. I can't keep up with these innings, like, I'm just gonna chill now.

但我确实觉得，可能在以前，投球时钟规则之前，这大概是个好办法。

But I do feel like probably back in the day, pre pitch clock, it's probably the move.

我也在想，我们周围的人会不会觉得困惑，因为我们那一排不算特别吵，但我们每次有坏球时都会欢呼。而当有人三振出局时，我们会变得很沮丧。我当时就在想，这些人会不会转过头来想，你们是谁啊

I also wondered if it was getting confusing for people around us because our row was not super loud, but we were also just like cheering every time there were balls. And we would get like really sad when people were striking out. And I was like, are these people just turning around being like, who do you who are

你们到底在给谁加油啊？这排到底发生了什么？

you guys even rooting for? Like, what is even happening in this row?

那天是洋基队对金莺队的比赛对吧？金莺队客观来说就是很烂。我们一直在抱怨每次金莺队上场打击，他们立刻就出局了，我们就会很沮丧。而且我觉得我们前面坐的是一群巴尔的摩的球迷家庭。

So that day, it was like the Yankees versus, like, the Orioles. Right? And the Orioles are objectively just ass. We were just complaining about every time the Orioles go up to bat, they were just immediately done, and we'd just be so sad. And I think in front of us was, like, a family of Baltimore fans.

他们就在那感叹，天啊。这排吃热狗的人就会很困惑，为什么

And they're just like, oh, man. This row of, like, hot dog eating people would just be like, why

这一切都在发生？

is it all happening?

有那么一刻，我就觉得，老兄，我感觉

At one point, I was just like, dude, I feel like

我们浑身都是热狗味。我脑子里都挥之不去那个热狗的味道。等等。还有一个特别搞笑的时刻，比赛快结束的时候，詹姆斯还想再吃几个热狗。然后他说，我觉得我要吐了。

we reek of hot dogs. Like, I can't get the hot dog smell out of my brain. Wait. Also, there was a really funny moment where we're getting close to the end of the game and James was, like, trying to eat a few more hot dogs. And he was like, I think I'm gonna be sick.

然后我们前面那排的人转过身来，一脸震惊和恐惧。然后詹姆斯赶紧说，哦，等等。不是。抱歉，我开玩笑的。

And then the row in front of us turned around it with, like, shock and horror. And then James was like, oh, wait. No. Sorry. I was just kidding.

比如，我其实不会真的吐的。

Like, I'm not actually gonna be sick.

然后他们就说，好吧。我们要不要换个位置？

And they're like, okay. Should we move?

比如直接溅到的地方。我

Like Direct splash zone. I

我记得有一次，那时候我喝了很多啤酒，而且它们气泡还很足。因为碳酸的关系，我以为我会有点想吐，但最后没有，这挺好的。我不知道。某种形式的9.99美元，如果你吐了，比如，必须重新开始，这太疯狂了，因为想象一下重新开始然后花远超过9.99美元。

think at one point, this was when I was like drinking a lot of the beers and they're still very carbonated. I thought I was going to like yak a little bit because of the carbonation, but I didn't, which was good. I don't know. In some form of $9.99, if you throw up, like, have to, like, start over, which is crazy because imagine just starting over and doing way more than nine ninety nine.

是的。我觉得那些是Jimin's League遵循的规则。比如，如果你吐了，就必须重新开始。

Yeah. I think those were the rules that Jimin's League was going by. Like, if you throw up, you have to start over.

太残酷了。

It's brutal.

这就是为什么当凯蒂问的时候，那时候你在群聊里问了。对吧？你问，关于呕吐的规则是什么？不是说我打算吐，只是以防万一。然后我就把Jimin's League说的规则回复了。

That's why when Katie asked, at that point, you, like, asked in the group chat. Right? You're like, what is the rule around throwing up? Not that I'm going to, but just in case. And then I just responded with whatever Jimin's League had said.

然后大家都说，哇，这有点太狠了吧。我就说，天哪，老兄。就像，Jimin的联盟真的很严格。

And then everyone was like, woah, that's kind of harsh. And I was like, damn, dude. Like, Jimin's League is harsh.

是啊。他们很刻薄。每次我抱怨，他们就说，也许你该停止输掉比赛。我就说，好吧。

Yeah. They're mean. Every time I complain, they're like, maybe just stop losing. I was like, alright.

酷。你知道吗？但是

Cool. You know? But

我觉得我们最后达成的共识是，如果你是故意呕吐的，那绝对得重新开始。但如果不是故意的，那就自己站起来继续。

I think we ended up on something like, if you throw up on purpose, you definitely have to start over. But if it's, like, not on purpose, then just pick yourself back up.

对。锁定它。对。对。当我看到Jimmy发的那条消息时，我就说，谢谢你，Jimmy。

Yeah. Lock it. Yeah. Yeah. When I read that message from Jimmy, I was like, thank you, Jimmy.

你真是太…你太善良了。你既善良又公平。

You're so you're so kind. You're so kind and so fair.

可能因为大家都在做这个挑战，所以有帮助。他们就说，哦，是啊。我完全能想象有人会因为挑战而呕吐。所以我觉得没问题。

It probably helped that everyone was doing the challenge. So they're like, oh, yeah. I could totally see someone throwing up from me. So I think it's okay.

是的。没错。我觉得如果你只是在口述，你会说，不行。为什么这会被允许呢？因为你并没有参与其中。

Yeah. True. I think if you're just dictating, you'd be like, no. Why would that be allowed? Because you're not you're not in it.

就像，我觉得很多人比他们预想的更早碰壁。也许这让他们也更欣赏你和我，凯蒂，至少努力去达到她的指标。当然，还有埃迪真的完成了整个挑战。所以。

Like, I think a lot of people hit walls sooner than they thought they would. Maybe that gives them also a greater appreciation for you and I, Katie, for trying at least to hit hit her metrics. And, of course, for Eddie actually completing the whole thing. So.

说实话，我觉得在我喝了两杯啤酒之后，大概是第二杯或第三杯的时候，我就感觉，哦，我开始有感觉了。而我几乎没吃没喝什么东西。这会非常艰难。

By being honest, I think at my after my two dogs and my second or third beer, was like, oh, I'm feeling it. And I barely have, like, eaten or drank anything. This is gonna be really rough.

我记得很多家伙都说，我今天真是服了。

I remember a lot of the guys were like, I'm humbled today.

是的。我原本以为可能更多家伙会完成挑战，但结果只有埃迪完成了。

Yeah. I guess I actually thought maybe more of the guys were gonna finish it, but yeah, only Eddie.

我觉得如果有人能完成的话，那一定是埃迪，因为我们都知道埃迪很能吃也能喝。所以我觉得在这个挑战中，只要有足够的时间，他就能做到。

I thought if anyone would be able to finish it, it would be Eddie because we all know Eddie is very capable of eating a lot and drinking a lot. So I was like, in this challenge, I think he can do it with enough time.

我觉得我们失去的另一点，从某种意义上说，通常是如果，我猜，主队。对吧？主队通常打下半局。所以如果他们在客队打完，比如第九局上半局时领先，那么第九局下半局实际上就不会打了。所以你也失去了那半局。

I think another thing that we lost, I guess, in a sense was usually if the, I guess, the home team. Right? The home team is usually playing the bottom of the inning. And so if they're leading by the time the away team is done with, like, the top of the ninth inning, the bottom of the ninth inning actually doesn't get played. So you lose that half inning there too.

凯蒂，我觉得你当时差不多要完成了，然后他们在第九局上半后就停止了。我记得你当时就是一副不情愿的样子，觉得还有时间，我们本可以再多打一局之类的。所以这又是一个时间管理的问题，我觉得我们有时候会忽略这一点。

I think, Katie, you were almost done, and then they stopped after the top of the ninth. And I think I remember you were just like, no. We had more time. We could, like, get an extra one in or something. So that was, like, another time management thing that I think we sometimes forget about.

对吧？有时候第九局下半就是不会打。

Right? It's, like, sometimes the bottom of the ninth just doesn't get played.

其实我不知道发生了这种事。所以谢谢你告诉我他们没有打第九局下半。到最后的时候，我就是喝得很醉，完全不知道发生了什么。

I actually didn't know that happened. So thank you for informing me that they didn't play the bottom of the ninth. Like, think at the end, I was just, like, really drunk. I didn't know yeah. No.

我觉得如果我有更多时间的话，我本可以再多打几局的。

I think if I had more time Yeah. I could have done a couple more.

没错。我想这就是为什么我记得你当时就坐在那里，一边吃东西一边说，哦不，我还能继续打。

Exactly. I I think that's why I remember you're, like, you're just sitting there. You're just, like, eating. Just, oh, no. I could keep going.

就像在说，嘿，比赛结束了。

Like, hey. The game's over.

老兄，梅尔当时就说，等等，第九局下半怎么了？她问，比赛剩下的部分呢？为什么我们就这么结束了？

Dude, Mel was like, wait. What happened to the bottom of the ninth? She was like, what happened to the rest of the game? Why don't we just end?

是的。而且我记得最后，那里好像没人了。是的，除了我们。

Yeah. And I remember at the end, there's, like, nobody there Yeah. Besides us.

我们大概又在那儿坐了三十到四十分钟吧，我想。

We like sat there for another forty like thirty to forty minutes I think.

他们赶我们走了吗？

Did they kick us out?

我们在他们赶人之前就走了，但他们已经开始准备赶了。

We left before they kicked us out but they were starting to.

公平地说，我们也在庆祝凯蒂的成功，还有埃迪完成了整个挑战。

To be fair we were also celebrating Katie's success and also Eddie having completed the whole thing.

那么现在回想起来，你对你最终的狗和胡子数量有什么感觉？你觉得你超出了自己开始惩罚前的预期，还是觉得，哦，我做得比预期的要差？

So I guess reflecting back now, how do you feel about your final dog and beard count? And do you feel like you beat your own expectations going into the punishment, or are you kind of like, oh, I did worse than I expected?

我们联盟去年也是九九九的一个变体。不过，我想因为不是每个人都能完成，他们协商降到了只做九和九。你必须喝掉和吃掉总共九样符合条件的东西。所以一开始，我当然想尝试完成整个九九九，但我觉得我的底线至少是九样，理想情况下是达成其中一项的九个。话虽如此，我确实觉得在喝酒部分有所欠缺，所以如果需要进行第三次尝试的话，我希望将来有机会挽回一下。

So our league, the previous year, was also a variance of the nine nine nine. Although, I think because, you know, not everyone could have done it, we they had negotiated down to just nine and nines. You had to drink and eat a total of nine items that would qualify. So I think going in, I, of course, wanted to try and finish the whole nine nine nine, but I think my floor had to be at least nine items and then ideally hit nine of one item. Having said that, I do think I fell short on the drinking part, so I would like to redeem myself maybe at some point if if a third attempt is called for.

等等。那去年他们吃了什么喝了什么？

Wait. So last year, what did they eat and drink?

去年我记得好像是五加四或者六加三。我得查一下，但他显然是回家后拉了一大泡屎，然后说自己感觉很不舒服。

So last year, I believe it was either five and four or six and three. I'll have to check, but he apparently went home and then took a huge dump after and said he felt very unwell.

所以他也是喝了啤酒吃了热狗还是

So he also did beers and hot dogs or

什么和热狗。

what was and hot dogs.

哦，好的。好的。

Oh, okay. Okay.

总数加起来是九个。哦。虽然他还吃了一个玉米热狗，但他们也算进去了。所以

The the total hatched the tally up to nine. Oh. Although he had a corn dog too, but they counted it. So

哦，真美味。

Oh, delicious.

是啊。哥们儿，而且之前那个人总共只吃了九个，他们还是那么严格。真的。

Yeah. Dude, and they were still so strict after the previous person only did nine total. True.

他们都很严格，直到轮到他们自己做的时候，对吧？不是他们的事，他们就只会说，哦，是啊，随便啦，哟。

They're all strict until it's them having to do it, right? It's not them, they're just like, oh, yeah, whatever, yo.

我觉得对我来说，我当时挺紧张的。我当时想，说实话我不知道自己能吃多少个热狗。而且我也不太擅长大量喝酒。所以一开始我有点紧张。我想，哦不，我不想让任何人失望，而且Obi还给我施加了这么多压力。

I think for me, I was pretty nervous. I was like, I don't know honestly like how many hot dogs I could eat. And I'm not really good at drinking volume. So going into it, I was kind of nervous. I was like, Oh no, I don't wanna disappoint anybody and Obi's putting all this pressure on me.

他说，你得豁出去。你得全力以赴，巴拉巴拉。然后我就说，好吧好吧，我会尽力的，我对自己的成绩真的很自豪，我没想到能在不到三个小时里喝掉九瓶啤酒还吃了热狗，我不想显得不谦虚，但你知道，我觉得如果再给我几个小时，也许我能吃完热狗。

He's like, You leave it. You gotta leave it all out on the field. Blah blah blah. And I was like, okay okay like I'm gonna try my best I'm really proud of my numbers I didn't think I could drink nine beers in like a little less than three hours and also do the hot dogs I don't want to sound like I'm not being humble, but you know, I think I had a couple more hours. Maybe I could have finished the hot dogs.

是啊。所以我对自己的成绩感到自豪。

Yeah. So I'm proud of my numbers.

哥们儿，你太厉害了，Katie。真的，

Dude, you crushed it, Katie. Like seriously,

我当时就想，哥们儿，这真是

I was like, dude, this is

当你回来的时候，你带着

when you came back and you had

那种像是被锁定的气场，而你当时

this aura of like being locked in and you were

就像，是啊，我大概喝了六

like, yeah, I'm at like six

七杯啤酒，两个热狗，我当时就想，天哪。她看起来要么要完成，要么

or seven beers, two hot dogs, I was like, oh my god. She's like gonna do it or gonna

真的要他妈接近完成了。我惊呆了。

get really fucking close to actually finishing it. I was amazed.

不过没错，你回来时带着那么大的自信。我们都觉得，天哪，她真的。她是来接受这个挑战的。

But yeah, you came back with such confidence. We were like, oh my god, she is. She's here to take on this challenge.

是的。我觉得当我回来的时候，那是我们发现那个熊吸管技巧的时候。嗯。然后我就想，哦，我能喝完这些啤酒。所以我就想，好吧。

Yeah. I think like when I came back, that was when we discovered the the bear straw trick. Mhmm. And then I was like, oh, I can finish these beers. So I was like, alright.

我们走吧。得集中精神了。

Let's go. We gotta lock in.

按总单位算，对吧，你有15个。我大概也是15个。我的体型差不多是你的两倍。所以你基本上算是超越我了。所以当我们看到你的档案数据时，我心想，天啊，这真是令人肃然起敬。

Based on total units, right, you had 15. For me, I was about 15 as well. I'm, like, twice your size. So you basically, like, outperformed me. So that's, you know when we when we saw your I saw your file numbers, I was like, damn, that is that's mad respect right now.

谢谢。谢谢。

Thank you. Thank you.

哦，这之后的情况怎么样？

Oh, how was the aftermath of this all?

第一次还是第二次？

The first time or the second

两次都说说吧。

time? Both, I guess.

第一次，我觉得我比较认真对待。所以我事先没吃太多，然后从Trader Joe's买了这些两升装的绿色果汁。我当时想，经历这场磨难后我需要他妈的来点蔬菜，我就一直在喝那个。其实我还好。第二天我觉得基本就没事了。

First time, I think I took it a little more seriously. So I, like, didn't eat too much beforehand and then bought, like, these two liter bottles of green juice from Trader Joe's. I was like, I need, like, a fucking vegetable after this ordeal, and I was just, like, drinking that. I was actually okay. Like, the next day, I think I was mostly fine.

我的胃在第二天快结束的时候可能有点不舒服。但大概过了两天左右，我就基本恢复正常了。感觉我大概又能吃热狗了。但我没有吃。我一直没吃，直到大概几周后，我吃了一个热狗，然后立刻就抑郁了。

My stomach was, like, a little uncomfortable maybe towards the end of the second day. But after about, like, two two days, I was pretty back to normal. Was like, I could probably eat, like, a hot dog again. But I did not. I did not until, like, maybe a few weeks later, and I had a hot dog and then immediately got depressed.

所以我不知道。就像是我的身体对更多的热狗肉产生了不良反应。但我还是吃了。我告诉Crystal说，兄弟，我刚吃了个热狗，感觉有点抑郁。

So I don't know. So it was like my body reacting adversely to, like, more hot dog meat. But I, like, ate it. I told Crystal, was like, dude, I just had a hot dog and I feel kinda depressed.

创伤啊。我记得是午餐时间。他就说，哇，今天午餐有热狗。也许我可以吃一个。

The trauma. It was like lunchtime, I think. He's like, woah. There's, like, hot dogs today for lunch. Maybe I'll eat one.

然后两小时后，我收到一条短信说，我抑郁了。

And then two hours later, I get a text that's like, I'm depressed.

我不

I don't

我感觉不舒服。

I don't feel good.

我就说，哦，不。身体还记得呢。

I was like, oh, no. The body keeps score.

你的身体好像在说，不行。放弃。放弃。放弃。

Your body's like, no. Abort. Abort. Abort.

我当时

I was

心想，这是什么情况？又来一次。我的导师有点像那种体育健将型的人。我阅读委员会里有一位教授，她来自意大利，非常意大利风格。

like, what is this? Not again. My adviser is like a kind of a big sports guy. This one professor on my on my reading committee, she's like this like, she's from Italy. Like, she's very Italian.

有时候不太理解美国的事情。所以第二天我碰巧遇到她，她问，哦，你周末过得怎么样？我说，你真想知道吗？

Like, doesn't really understand America sometimes. And so the next day, like, I ran into her. She's like, oh, how was your weekend? I'm like, do you really wanna know?

她说，

She's like,

是啊，告诉我，告诉我。于是我解释了那个999的事情，随着描述继续，她脸上露出惊恐的表情。她问，你为什么要那样做？

yeah. Tell me. Tell me. And so I explained this nine nine nine thing and, like, the look of horror on her face, like, as the description continued. She's like, why would you do that?

为什么要这样对待自己？我说，为了好玩？她反问，为了好玩？我的导师就站在那里，你能看到他眼神中的绝望，他看着我的样子就像在说，这就是我的学生干的事。

Like, why would you do this to yourself? I was like, for fun? She was like, for fun? I'm like my adviser just standing there and, like, you just see his eyes, like, dying as he was, like, looking at me just like just like, this is what my student does.

周末，他为了好玩吃了九个热狗，喝了九瓶啤酒。

On the weekend, he eats nine hot dogs and drinks nine beers for fun.

是的。那次还好。然后第二次，我觉得情况差不多。大概花了两天时间。

Yeah. That time was okay. And then the second time, I think same thing. Took about two days.

之后我感觉醉了，所以感觉还不错。然后大概过了几个小时，我就昏睡过去了。我记得你们去吃饭时，Obi问我要不要一起去，我说，哥们，我现在真的真的起不来。然后我就继续昏睡，大概睡了五个小时。

After, I felt drunk, so I felt good. And then maybe a couple hours afterwards, like, I passed out. And then I remember you guys went to dinner and Obi was like, do you wanna come? And I was like, man, I really I really can't get up right now. And then I I continued to pass out until, like, maybe for like five hours.

我想我是晚上11点半醒的。那时候，我的身体感觉并不算太糟，但还是觉得非常非常饱。但我记得我当时特别想吃点不是热狗的东西，真的特别想吃。

I think I woke up at 11:30PM. And then at that point, my body wasn't feeling it wasn't feeling terrible. I was still feeling really, really full. But I remember I was like, I really, really want to eat something that's not a hot dog. Like, I really want it.

我值得吃点热狗以外的东西。所以我觉得我当时非常渴望真正的食物，但身体还是太饱了。最后我做了些凉面，开始吃的时候觉得，哇，这个味道真不错。

I deserve something to eat other than a hot dog. So I think I was really craving actual food, but my body was still really, really full. So I ended up making some cold noodles. And so I started eating that. I like, wow, this tastes really good.

但我的身体还是很饱，我只是想尝点不是热狗的东西。然后第二天我其实感觉出乎意料地不太糟，所以有点惊讶。但我想可能是因为喝了不少水和啤酒，所以感觉还行。

But my body was still really full, but I just wanted to like taste something that was not, I don't know, hot dog. Yeah. And then I think the next day I actually felt surprisingly not too bad. So, yeah, I was a bit surprised by that. But I guess there's like a decent amount of water and beer, so I felt okay.

我猜睡觉可能帮了大忙。是的，还有走路。

I guess the sleeping probably helped a lot. Yeah. And the walking.

走路。

The walking.

走路这件事又起作用了。我觉得我们很不幸地在Jimin比赛后困住了他，因为我们去了SF，你知道，就是为了看比赛。所以我们拼车上去，本来打算一起回来，但结果我们就在那里闲逛、喝酒之类的。Jimin真是个硬汉，他全程都坚持下来了，虽然我觉得他可能真的很需要回家睡觉。

The walking once again comes into play. I think we unfortunately trapped Jimin after his game, because we went up to SF to, like, you know, for the game. And so we carpooled up and we were gonna go back down together, but we ended up just like hanging out, drinking, and all of that. And Jimin was a trooper, and he stayed through the whole thing when I feel like he really probably needed to go home and sleep.

都很好。

Good all.

是的。不知怎么的，那天晚上，我到最后成了状态最好的人。我是我是状态最好的人。

Yeah. Some somehow that night, I I became the most okay by the end of the night. I was I was the most most okay person.

负责任的那个。是的。是的。但我们吸取了教训。对吧？

The responsible one. Yeah. Yeah. But we learned our lesson. Did we?

我我很惊讶Eddie和我没有。我很惊讶你们所有人都出去吃了更多。我当时就想，等等。他们是怎么做到的？哦，

I I was surprised that Eddie and I no. I was surprised that all of you guys went out to eat more. I was like, wait. How did they do that? Oh,

等等。那是真的。Eddie，在所有人中，居然也出去吃了。Jisoo并没有真正完成挑战，然后没有。我很早就停了。

wait. That's true. That Eddie, of all people, also went out to eat. Jisoo didn't really do the challenge, and then Nope. I stopped pretty early.

和我们一起的另一个女孩辛迪，她也没有完成挑战。所以我们三个和我们的男朋友一起出去了，不过男生们出去得晚得多。他们大概是九点左右出去的，我想是的。去吃饭。我觉得他们是在拖延时间，因为他们说，我太饱了。

The other girl who was with us, Cindy, she also didn't do the challenge. So us three and our boyfriends went out and then the boys went out much later though. They went out at, like, nine, I think Yeah. To eat. I think they were trying to stall because they were like, I'm so full.

但我记得梅尔当时说，等等，大家。我们能去吃晚饭吗？大概六点左右。结果他们一直到九点才吃上饭。

But I remember because Mel was like, wait, guys. Can we go eat dinner? At, like, six or something. And they didn't end up eating till, like, nine.

太疯狂了。是啊。我当时想，埃迪之后出去吃饭了。我很惊讶。但埃迪感觉不一样了。

That's crazy. Yeah. I was like, Eddie went out to eat after that. I was so surprised. But Eddie's felt different.

他感觉不一样了。确实如此。

He's felt different. That's true.

我觉得他先回家小睡了一会儿。

I think he went home to take a nap first.

哦，等等。没错。没错。

Oh, wait. That's right. That's right.

哇。智敏才是真正的勇士，九点九十九分之后还出门。

Wow. Jimin's the true trooper going out after nine ninety nine.

两次。两次。

Twice. Twice.

好的。那么，我最后问你们两个一个问题。既然你们已经完成了在我看来是梦幻橄榄球输球的一次重大惩罚，你们是否觉得这段经历改变了你们对未来梦幻惩罚或一般惩罚的看法？比如，你们对参加惩罚联盟的想法，或者这是否改变了你们下个赛季选择惩罚方式的想法，等等？

Okay. Well, I have a final question for both of you. Now that you have done what I would consider a major punishment for losing fantasy football, do you feel like the experience changed the way that you see future punishments for fantasy or just punishments in general? You know, like your thoughts on being in a punishment league or maybe this changed the way you wanna pick the punishment next season, etcetera, etcetera?

不幸的是，我输的次数比我希望的要多，所以我现在已经遭受了好几种不同的惩罚。我还是愿意相信我不会最终受到惩罚。所以我通常倾向于，比如说，选择稍微更具挑战性一点的惩罚。然后随着赛季的进行，我又希望我们当初选择了更温和的那种。但是，我觉得你们的联盟，凯蒂、杰森、克里斯·李，你们的联盟也有每周惩罚。

Unfortunately, I end up losing more often than I'd like, so I've been subjected to several different punishments now. I still like to believe that I won't end up getting punished. So I'm usually for, like, something that's a little more a little more challenging, I would say. And then as the season progresses, I wish we chose, like, the more tamer one. But, I think also for your league, Katie, Jason, Chris Lee, like, league also has, like, a weekly punishment too.

对吧？而且我认为这也改变了你看待事情的方式。我们的联盟有一个类似的惩罚变体。所以，你知道，除了担心你每周的整体胜负记录之外，我还要为每个球员的进步而紧张。所以如果我知道，好吧，我这周的阵容要输了，但至少我需要每个人都处于正分状态。

Right? And I think that also changes how you view things. Our league has, like, a similar variation of that punishment. So, you know, instead of also worrying about your, like, overall win loss record every week, I'm also sweating, like, each individual player's improvement. So if I know, okay, I'm gonna lose this week's lineup, but at least I need everyone to, like, be in the positive.

对吧？否则，我就得面对我们另一个潜伏的惩罚了。但是，是的，我认为归根结底，就像是这样，我们有这个惩罚。它应该是好玩的。别为此把自己逼得太紧，但至少要尝试。

Right? Otherwise, I'm cooked for this other lurking punishment that we have. But, yeah, I think at the end of the day, it's like, we have this punishment. It's supposed to be fun. Don't kill yourself over it, but at least try.

只要你尽了最大努力，没有人会为此责怪你。我已经有点麻木了。

As long as you try your best, no one's gonna fault you for it. I've kinda just gotten numb to

听起来好愤世嫉俗。

Sounds so jaded.

我累了，老板。

I'm tired, boss.

是啊。我想这是我第一次参加这种类型的梦幻联盟，也是第一次参与这种大型惩罚活动。我觉得这次不仅我尽了最大努力，其他人也都和我一起参与了。展望未来，我们似乎也会选择类似强度的活动来保持这种势头。但看起来我们的联盟里，每个人都想参与或者尝试一下。

Yeah. I guess this is like my first time participating into this type of Fantasy League and also doing, I guess, like one of these major punishments. I think for this time around, not only I gave my best effort, I think everybody else also kind of participated with me. Going forward, I think it seems like we'll also pick something that's, like, similar intensity to, like, keep it going. But it does seem like our league, like, everybody wants to participate or like try it out as well.

所以看起来趋势是，好吧，我们尽量选一个不太容易但其他人也能为了好玩而参与的活动。惩罚似乎并不是一件坏事。

So it seems like it's going in the direction where we're like, okay, let's try to pick something that's not too easy, but also, you know, other people can participate for fun. It seems like not a negative thing, the punishment.

没错。我觉得我们一直是这样，就像今年决定的那样，一个重要的问题是每个人都能参与吗？它会不会成为一项至少让大家观看或参与的有趣活动？所以，是的，我想这是什么？我们是在自虐吗？

That's true. I feel like we've always been like, as we decided this year's like, a big thing was can everyone make it? Is it gonna be, a fun activity for everyone to at least watch or be a part of? So, yeah, I guess that, what is this? Are we just, like, hating ourselves?

创伤联结。是的。

Trauma bonding. Yeah.

这是在建设社区。对吧？就像凯蒂说的，大家都飞过来参加了。我的那次，大家也飞过来，把它变成了一个周末活动。所以以一种非常诡异的方式，它建立了社区。

It's it's community building. Right? I think, like like Katie said, everyone flew in for that. I mean, for mine, people also flew in and made a weekend out of it. And so in a very macabre manner, it builds community.

我们在为自己制造冲突，这样我们才能变得更好。

We're creating conflict for ourselves so that we can we can get better.

另外，有个激动人心的消息，凯蒂今年在联盟中大杀四方。

Also, an exciting news, Katie's been destroying the league this year.

我去拿个板凳。

I'll get a bench.

她现在大概是四胜零负吧。我不想乌鸦嘴，但看起来她的形势一片大好。

She's, like, four and o right now. I don't wanna jinx anything, but, like, things are looking good for her.

是啊。我问了其他几个做九九九的人，我说，哦对了，有没有可能我又得再做一次惩罚？他们说不会。所以我特别开心。

Yeah. I was, asking some other people over doing nine ninety nine. I was like, oh yeah, like, is there a chance that I could end up doing it, doing the punishment again? And they said no. So I was very happy about that.

我当时就想，耶。

I was like, yay.

嗯，我觉得和我们第一期关于梦幻体育的节目类似，主题也很相似：尽管最后有个又大又严厉又吓人的惩罚，但这仍然非常有助于建立社区，某种程度上也算是一种创伤联结吧，当我们自愿加入时。但不管怎样，我觉得这很有趣，因为说到底我们知道这不一定完全可能，但重要的是我们付出了努力并玩得开心。可能这整期节目和这些惩罚听起来有点疯狂，但别担心，我们其实乐在其中。非常感谢凯蒂和Jimin加入我们，聊聊如何在梦幻联盟的惩罚中幸存下来。对于我们的听众，如果你见过、听说过甚至参与过任何有趣的惩罚，欢迎分享给我们。

Well, I feel like similar to our first episode about fantasy sports, the theme is similar that even though there's, like, this big, harsh, scary punishment at the end, it's still very community building and somehow trauma bonding, I guess, when we subject ourselves to join. But regardless, I feel like it's a fun time because at the end of the day we know that it's not necessarily completely possible, but what matters is that we put in the effort and have a good time. It probably sounds kind of crazy, this whole episode and these punishments, but don't worry, we're secretly having fun. Thank you so much, Katie and Jimin, for joining us to talk through surviving a punishment for a fantasy league. And for our listeners out there, if there's any interesting punishments you've seen or heard of or even participated in, feel free to share with us.

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