咯咯笑着谈论道歉、腊肠犬和红女巫

怎么样，笑个屁啊？Carrie，修好你的WiFi。显化一下那破玩意儿。我们不能

Sup, giggles? Carrie, fix your WiFi. Manifest that shit. We can't be

搞定。我

managed. I

是说，今天就这么溜走了。我得告诉你。我刚灌了一大杯脏柴拿铁。所以这期播客里要发生的任何事，我都不负责。然后我要再来点小泡芙提提神。

mean, the day just got away from me. I need to let you know. I just chugged a dirty chai latte. So anything that's about to happen on this pod, I'm not responsible for. And then I'm gonna cool it off with a little dunk and refresher.

嗯。

Yeah.

这就是我眼里的欢乐夜晚。所以大家都锁定。好，锁定了。首先，得道个歉。

That's my idea of a fun night. So everyone lock in. Okay. Locked. First of all, have to make an apology.

我们甚至没说，哦，开始了。好吧。我以为这是咱们的开场白，

We didn't even say, oh, we're going. Okay. I thought this was our preamble,

结果你说，现在我要正式开始了。哦，我们已经在节目里了。

and you're like, and now I'll start. Oh, we're in it.

进进我们

Get get We're

在节目里了。抱歉。这周不一样。我们已经在节目里了。

in it. Sorry. This week is different. We're in it.

开始了。全变了。好。所以我发了上一条和Lululemon合作的视频，我开了些玩笑，轻松的玩笑，但我犯了个错。而且是个糟糕的错误，因为我——你知道那种你根本没意识到自己错了，然后评论区都在说，她怎么连这都不知道？

Here we go. Changed everything. Okay. So I posted my last video a video with Lululemon, and I was making some jokes, some light jokes, and I made a mistake. And it was it was a bad mistake because I you know when you don't know you made the mistake, and then people in the comments are like, how did she not know this?

我当时就想，这他妈太对了。我都不知道这个。你知道它不是念dashhounds吗？Dashhounds。显然，是dachshunds。

And I'm like, that is so fucking true. I didn't know this. Do you know it's not pronounced dashhounds? Dashhounds. Apparently, it's dachshunds.

等等。不。等等。对不起。猫奴们

Hold on. No. Hold on. Sorry. Cat people are

现在完全懵了。抱歉。

so confused right now. Sorry.

抱歉。等等。

Sorry. Hold on.

是不是我觉得这更像是最喜欢的？不。这是

Is I feel like this is a bit more favorite. No. This is

这不是一点点，而是真心地，你能拼一下吗？

this is not a bit, but genuinely, can you spell it?

好。事情是这样的。拼写是D A s c h o u n d s左右，差不多

Okay. So this is the thing. It's spelled D A s c h o u n d s along those lines, like, close

差不多。好。好。

to that. Okay. Okay.

我刚说完‘这是那个字母’你就已经走神了，就像，你没觉得无聊。

I already lost you after, like, this is the letter that you were, like, not bored.

我脑子立刻跳到了四川鸡肉。

I my brain immediately went to Szechuan chicken.

我饿了。我立刻就去了

I am hungry. I immediately was at

隔壁我最喜欢的中餐馆，我当时就想，宫保鸡丁。好。这就是我今晚要吃的。

my favorite Chinese restaurant right next door, and I was like, kung pao chicken. Okay. That's what I'm getting for dinner.

再来点甜酸酱。谢谢。所以我猜我一直在网上看那些网红女生，写着，我养了一只达什猎犬。我是这么读的。然后我看到，根据她们的Lululemon穿搭来分类女生。

Side of duck sauce. Thank you. So I guess I've just been reading online all the influencer girls, like, writing, like, I got a a dash hound. It's how I was reading it. Then I was saying, like, types of girls based on their Lululemon outfit.

我当时想，这个女孩买了一只达什猎犬。在流行之前就领养了一只达什猎犬。评论里说，你个蠢货，那叫达克斯猎犬。我说，也许我们不蠢。

And I was like, this girl bought As a dashhound. Got adopted a dashhound before it was trendy. The comments were like, you dumb bitch. It's pronounced dachshund. And I go, maybe we're not dumb.

也许这

Maybe this

是

is Where's

x在哪？

the x?

我以为达克斯猎犬是完全不同的品种。

I thought dachshund was a whole separate breed.

我也是。

Same.

我以为拼写是d o x e n。

I thought it was d o x e n.

我觉得世界上有些人在说‘dashhound’这个词。

I feel like there are people out here in the world saying the word dashhound.

不是吗？有Connor、Cupid、Dachshund、Donner和Blitzen。

Isn't it? There was Connor and Cupid and Dachshund and Donner and Blitzen.

它们跟这有什么关系？

What did they have to do with this?

我还以为那是其中一只腊肠狗呢。总之，我还是很困惑，而且我不想谷歌，因为我觉得那会让我更困惑。但我以为dachshund和dashhound是两个不同的……好吧。你知道她就像，我不关心这种关于狗的对话。她正在舔自己的爪子，好像在说，我受够了。

I thought that was one of the dachshunds. So anyway, I'm still confused and I don't wanna Google it because I feel like that'll get me more confused. But I thought dachshund and dashhound are two different Okay. Know you is like, I don't care about this kind of conversations about dogs. She's licking her own paw being like, I'm over it.

佩奇正在谷歌。

Paige is googling

这是工作，这是工作。

This is a job this is a job

给不在这里的克里斯的。

For Chris, who's not here.

这是ChatGPT的工作，这超出了谷歌的薪资等级。

This is a job for ChatGPT. This is above Google's pay grade.

嗯。

Mhmm.

其实，我把所有东西都拼错了。所以Chat就像，其实……

Well, actually, I spelled everything wrong. So Chat's like, actually

这让我想起我试图查看戴斯的中文手机时的情景，我发现我完全看不懂上面的内容。

This reminds me of me when I tried to go through Des's Mandarin phone, and I realized I don't understand anything on it.

“达什猎犬”这么读，没错。达克斯猎犬，官方品种。它们是德国狗。

Dashhound pronounced yeah. Dach Dachshund, the official breed. They're a German dog.

好吧。但它们

Okay. But They

名字叫维纳狗、香肠狗。

name wiener dog sausage dog.

好吧。但请耐心听我说。‘达什猎犬’听起来像真狗的名字。什么是达什猎犬？

Okay. But bear with me. Dashhound sounds like a real dog. What's a dashhound?

所以不管有人说达什猎犬、达克斯猎犬、达克斯洪，指的都是同一种标志性的长身短腿小狗。等等。

So whether someone says dashhound, dachshund, dachshund, they all mean the same iconic long body short legged little dog. Wait.

她洗白了。她

She's been redeemed. She

所以你可以随便叫。

So you can call it either.

收回我的道歉。对，我收回。

Take back my apology. Yeah. I take it back.

这就是为什么你不能听互联网的。它火了，我就像，我才不为那道歉。滚开。

This is why you can't listen to the Internet. It's lit I'm like, I'm not apologizing for that. Fuck off.

我收回我的道歉。

I take back my apology.

消音吧，Grace。任何我没见过、没道歉过的事，说明它他妈的根本不是真的，舔我屌去吧，好吗？这就是我没道歉的原因，因为我根本不认识你们这些贱人。

Bleep it out, Grace. Anything I haven't seen, anything that I haven't apologized for means it's not fucking true and suck my dick. Okay? That's why I haven't apologized for it because I don't know you bitches.

但你知道我道歉可快了。我啥都能道歉。你道歉也快。我我收回。我收回。

But you know I'm quick for an apology. I'll apologize for anything. You're quick an apology. I I take it back. I take it back.

我宁可硬刚，再想想，然后回来找你。

I'd rather double down, think about it again, and then come back to you.

就像那个表情包，吵架中途你意识到自己错了，就开始试图翻盘。

That's like that meme where mid fight, you know you're wrong and you start trying to turn it.

哦我的天。开启一天的绝佳方式。绝佳方式

Oh my god. What a way to start the day. What a way

开启一天。现在我更来劲了。我心跳加速。我的算法里全是AI猫咪播客。对。

to start the day. Now I'm feeling myself even more. My heart's pumping. My algorithm is full of AI cat podcasters. Yeah.

笑死我了，我不能再往生活里转发了，它在毁我人际关系，因为那些猫就在狂喷狗和它们的主人，说的就是我们。比如猫会说

It is cracking me up and I have to stop sending it to people in my life because it's ruining my relationships because the cats are just shitting on dogs and their owners and it's literally us. Like, the cat will be like

我们的生活已经缩成这么点小的多巴胺刺激。我

Our lives have been reduced to such small, like, dope dopamine hits. I'm

就像，这

like, this

现在看这只从冰淇淋机里钻出来的AI猫，对我的心理健康真的很有好处。

is really good for my mental health right now if I watch this AI cat coming out of an ice cream machine.

不是故意引用Stacy Aricchio还是Richel，我发音不对。人生肯定不止追逐每一次短暂的快感。对，你还记得那首歌吗？不记得。

Not to quote Stacy Aricchio or Richel, I'm not pronouncing it right. There's gotta be more to life than chasing down every temporary high. Yeah. Do you remember that song? No.

但我同意她。大家去听听那首歌。你怎么样？什么

But I agree with her. Everyone check out that song. How how are you? What

“你好”去哪儿了？你好吗？我刚从托斯卡纳的阳光下回来。

happened to hello? How are you? I just got back from being under the Tuscan sun.

哦，对，你他妈去了意大利。三周里你去了两次意大利。

Oh, yeah. You were in fucking Italy. You've been to Italy twice in, like, three weeks.

我就想对那些在我私信里咯咯笑的人说：为什么我每次去意大利都说没衣服，结果又晒出我们见过最疯狂的穿搭？没错，非常感谢。我喜欢把标准设得低一点，对。

I just wanna say that to the gigglers that are in my DMs being, like, why do you do this every time you go to Italy? You say you have no outfits and then you bust out, like, the craziest looks we've seen. Yep. Thank you so so much. I like to set the bar low Yeah.

这样你们的期待更低，你们就会更开心。但那个让我别喷古铜色喷雾的女孩？这是真的宝贝，亲爱的。

So that your expectation, you have an even better day. But the girl saying that I need to chill on my spray tan? It's real baby. Honey.

而且我我我打算一直保持到十一月。我整个夏天都在抹油就是为了这个。

And I'm I'm I'm literally keeping it till November. I've literally oiled up all summer for this.

这叫作意大利人。

It's called being Italian.

这叫作在意大利当意大利人，而且这是我经历过最疯狂的婚礼周末之一。我觉得二十到三十岁里，我参加过很多疯狂的婚礼，我会想“这也太离谱了”。这次绝对是其中之一。是我纽约最老的朋友之一，所以感觉像一年一次的高中同学会，因为——对。

It's called being Italian in Italy, and it's it was one of I mean, I feel like I've gone to a lot of crazy wedding weekends in my day. I feel like if there's one thing I've experienced in my twenties and thirties, it's insane weddings that I'm like, this is crazy. This definitely was one of those. It was one of my oldest friends from New York. So I feel like once a year, I have like this it feels like a high school reunion because it's Yeah.

就是我在纽约市遇到的每一个人，我都会觉得，哦，这很尴尬。

Just everyone I've ever met in New York City ever, and I'm like, oh, this is awkward.

好吧。有很多次

Okay. There were many times where

我都在想，其实我觉得有人在喊我的名字，我得走了。我得说我没有吃一片β受体阻滞剂。哦天哪。对不起。

I was like, actually, I think someone's yelling my name. I gotta go. I do wanna say I didn't take one beta blocker. Oh my god. Sorry.

对不起。我很抱歉。不是抱歉。抱歉。抱歉。

Sorry. I'm Sorry. Not sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

我在跳来跳去。我们会回到婚礼上的。你看到《华尔街日报》写了一整篇

I'm jumping around here. We will get back to the wedding. Did you see did you see that the Wall Street Journal wrote an entire

等等。我没有订阅，所以我读不了。

Wait. I'm not subscribed, so I couldn't read it.

好吧。看到一半的时候，整篇文章最疯狂的部分，我直接说，我什么时候订了《华尔街日报》？

Okay. So halfway through, the craziest part about the whole article, I literally go, when the fuck did I get a Wall Street Journal subscription?

然后我就在想。你是怎么读到的？你意识到自己每月花了23美元吗？

Then I'm wondering. How did you read it? You realize you've been paying $23 a month?

我读到文章结尾，直接说，对不起。是谁刷了我的卡？

I literally get to the end of the article, and I'm like, sorry. Who charged my card for this?

我不应该被允许读这种内容。

I should not be allowed to read this kind of content.

我当时想，我得了这个多久了？

I'm like, how long have I had this?

有人给我发消息。我当时想，顺便说一句，《华尔街日报》写了篇关于你们和β受体阻滞剂的文章，我说，这跟我没关系，因为我没订阅。

Someone messaged me. I was like, by the way, The Wall Street Journal wrote an article about you guys and beta blockers, and I go, that's none of my business because I'm not subscribed.

真的完全跟我们无关。说实话，我确实看到了一些评论，他们就像，哦，写这篇文章的人显然讨厌汉娜和佩奇。但我读了那篇文章，我当时想，哦，我不这么认为。唯一的问题是，我在Instagram上看到的标题，是一个女孩发给我的，就是《华尔街日报》的官方Instagram，上面写着“女性为各种小事到婚礼当天都在服用的药丸”。我当时想，好吧。

Literally none of none of our business. Honestly, I did see, like, some of the comments, and they they were like, oh, like, the person that wrote it obviously hates Hannah and Paige. But the but I read the article, and I was like, oh, I don't think so. The only thing that the headline, like, on the Instagram, how I saw it was like a girl sent me, like, the actual Wall Street Journal Instagram, and it said the pill that women are taking for everything from, like, very menial things to, like, your wedding day. And I was like, okay.

请不要把我们当成19岁的家庭主妇，因为有点焦虑就把自己弄昏迷，拜托

Please don't act like we're 19 housewives, like, comatosing ourselves because we get a little anxious. Like

还有，咱们别把‘琐碎’和‘女人’这两个词放在一起。我刚刚……女人从来没做过任何琐碎的事。

Also, let's not let's not use the word menial and women together. Well, it just I was A woman's never done anything that's menial.

它整篇都在说，还有，‘琐碎’是什么意思？就像，小的、微不足道的，哦。对不起，我太兴奋要解释点什么了。我当时想，哦，这个我 actually 知道。

It went through the whole thing of like Also, does menial mean? Like, small, minute, like oh. Sorry. I got really excited to explain something. I'm like, oh, actually, this one I know.

但基本上，整篇文章都在说，我们这一代人如何吃药，β受体阻滞剂到底对你有没有好处，会不会反而长期导致心脏病等等，等等等等。重点是，如果你从佩奇·奥迪·迪索沃那里获取医疗信息，那你问题大了，好吗？你有更大的麻烦。

But, basically, the whole article was that how, like, our generation, like, takes medicine and, like, is it are beta blockers actually good for you and, like, will it actually have, like, a long term effect of heart disease instead and blah blah blah and whatever. Here's the thing. If you're getting your medical information from Paige Audi Dysorvo, you got bigger problems. Okay? You got way bigger shit going on.

而且它没有成瘾性，也不是那种——我们不是告诉人们，先跟你的医生谈谈，

Also, it is non addictive and it's not like a we're not we're telling people, talk to your doctor first,

但就像，是啊，显然，我咨询过医生。是啊，你知道，是那种顶级专业人士。我要说的是。

but like Yeah. Obviously, like, I spoke to a doctor. Yeah. You know, like a grade a professional. The here's what I will say.

我选择服用β受体阻滞剂的原因是因为我不喜欢阿普唑仑，也不喜欢任何会干扰我大脑的东西，因为我确实觉得我会是那种对阿普唑仑上瘾的人。我甚至不想走上那条路。我服用β受体阻滞剂，现在大概一个月一次。是啊，但我仍然完全支持它。

The reason that I chose to take beta blockers was because I don't like Xanax, and I don't like anything that does mess with my brain because I do feel like I would be someone that would get addicted to Xanax. And I don't even wouldn't even wanna go down that road. And I take a beta blocker, I mean, maybe once a month now. Yeah. But I still wholeheartedly stand by it.

我觉得它们是最棒的东西。

I think they're the best things ever.

嗯，对很多人来说，我个人在身体有反应时，会变得更焦虑，就像加重了焦虑。你知道那种对自己的焦虑感到焦虑的感觉吗？所以β受体阻滞剂可以减缓身体反应，也因此……我们最初是给佩奇巡演时突发恐慌症才用的。我为了支持她、表示团结，也开始吃了。

Well, for a lot of I personally, when I have a physical reaction, I then get like more anxious and it like adds to the anxiety. You know when you have anxiety about your anxiety? So beta blockers can like slow the physical reaction, so it kind and of also, we started it when Paige was having panic attacks on tour. And I started it in support of her, in solidarity.

有人评论说，佩奇就随便从谁那儿嗑药。我当时想，好吧，抱歉，我只是想玩得开心。

Someone commented and was like, Paige is just out here taking drugs and from anyone. And I was like, okay. Sorry. I'm a good time.

就像，给我——

Like, give me a

从谁那儿？是我最好的朋友，而且我是跟一位化妆师拿的。

From anyone, it was my best friend, and I sourced it from a makeup artist. So

如果你曾经从化妆师那儿拿过药，你就知道那一定很棒。

If you've ever taken a drug from a makeup artist, you know that it's really good.

好吧。所以你在托斯卡纳的时候没吃β受体阻滞剂。

Okay. So you're not taking you're off your beta blockers in Tuscany.

我真的忘了吃，因为说实话我当时有点夸张，但都是我的朋友，所以我其实不紧张。不过大场面当然还是吓人。但那是个超棒的周末，所有活动都在庄园里，所以每天婚礼有什么安排，走两步就到。

I literally, like, forgot to take them because I honestly was, like, being dramatic, but it was all my friends. So I, like, actually wasn't nervous, but big crowds, obviously, it is scary. But it was such a fun weekend. It was like, how they did it was everything was right on the property. So, like, each day that we had, like, a wedding event, it was, like, right there.

所以真的很舒服。

So it was, like, really nice.

我讨厌婚礼还要跑来跑去的行程。

I hate when there's travel admin.

是啊，天气太棒了。他们的余兴派对，那些都是纽约人，土生土长、自带纽约气场的那种。你走到余兴派对门口，门口的工作人员完全在表演。

Yeah. The weather was amazing. Their after party, these are, like, New York City people. These are, like, born and raised New York City just, like, vibes. So you, like, walk up to the after party, they had, like, the door people, like, full on acting.

就像一场沉浸式戏剧。他们把场地布置成真正的纽约夜店，有隔离绳、夹板、耳机，

Like, it was an interactive play. And they had it like it was a real New York City club, and they had, like, a rope, and they had clipboards and headsets, and

他们还跟我说

they, like, told them I

我爱死了。他们跟每个人都说进不去，我们就说，我们认识

loved it. They told everyone, like, they couldn't get in and we're just like, we know

老板。你得求着才能进去。

the owner. You had to beg to get in.

不，他们真的在演，完全是段子。等等，

No, they literally did a bit. It was a full Wait,

这也太他妈搞笑了。

that is so fucking funny.

真的超好玩。他们还点了麦当劳，上面印着婚礼标志。

No, it was so fun. They had McDonald's with their wedding thing on it.

我就爱他们跑到托斯卡纳去吃麦当劳。

I love that they went to Tuscany to eat McDonald's.

可不是嘛。他们细节满满。要是哪个朋友会搞这么多小心思，一定是这对新人。场面太惊艳了，简直完美。

No. They had so many amazing details. And if any friend was gonna have so many little details, it was gonna be like this couple. It looks spectacular. It was just the best.

但我很难过，因为我觉得我的夏天真的结束了。

But I'm sad because I feel like now my summer really is over.

夏天还没结束，因为我们还有 Dunkin' 的清爽饮料。

Summer's not over because we still have our Dunkin' refreshers.

我在喝蓝莓清爽饮，前几周第一次尝试就爱上了。我加了柠檬水，因为感觉更有劲，但我真的超喜欢这款。

And I'm drinking the blueberry refresher. I tried it for the first time the other week and I was obsessed. And I add lemonade to mine because it just, like, adds a little extra kick, but I'm loving this one.

你们知道我超爱芒果菠萝绿茶那款，我迷上了，太好喝了，不会太甜，我会少放点浓缩。

You guys know I love the mango pineapple with green tea. I'm obsessed with it. So good. Not too sweet. I get a little less concentrate.

强烈推荐。我们原本定在九点录这期播客。结果佩奇昨晚发消息说，汉娜，我太累了，九点不行，十一点可以吗？

Highly recommend. We were scheduled to record this pod Yeah. At like nine And and Paige texts last night and is like, Hannah, I'm too tired. I can't do nine. Can we do eleven?

我说，为了我的宝贝啥都行，你知道我挺你。我意识到我从加州飞过来，我们时差方向相反。

And I'm like, anything for my baby. Like, you know I have your back. I realized I'm coming from California. So and we're jet lagged different ways.

我们时差正好相反。

We're jet in the opposite way.

所以你其实可能早就醒了。

So you were actually probably awake early.

我醒着。我在飞机上把自己搞砸了，全程都在睡。结果六点到家时精神得像

I was awake. Well, I had fucked myself on the plane. I slept the whole plane ride. So then when I landed and I got home at like 06:00, I'm wired, like

开了瓶汽水一样。

a pop.

是啊，所以你睡不着？

Yeah. So you couldn't fall asleep?

所以我睡不着，一直到凌晨一点才睡着。

So I couldn't fall asleep. So I wasn't asleep till like 1AM.

你看，我戏特别多，因为我在加州待了三天，我就跟人家说，天哪，我好嫉妒，对不起，我受不了。对了，我当时在哪儿？我在……不，我在温哥华、萨克拉门托，感觉如何？还有奥克兰。

See, I'm being so dramatic because I was in California for three days and I'm like, guys, I'm so jealous. Sorry, like I can't. Mind you, where was I? I was in no, was in Vancouver, Sacramento How was that? And Oakland.

那可真远，温哥华远得要命。我当时在阿拉斯加，对，都快到俄罗斯了，所以我……你就是只企鹅。

That is far. Vancouver is far as fuck. I was in Alaska Yeah. Which is almost in Russia. So I You're a penguin.

我说，你简直是只真企鹅。

I mean, you're a literal penguin.

所以我的单口巡演正式开始了，我超迷这个新节目，姑娘们还打着领带，可爱爆了。但我走进后台休息室时，啥都不记得了。

So my my stand up tour has officially started. And I'm, like, obsessed with the new show. And the girls are wearing ties. Like, it's so cute. But I, like, walk in the green room and we don't remember any of Anything.

啥都不记得？可我走进那间休息室就想，佩奇在这儿恐慌发作过，你就说

The any anything? But I walk into this green room and I'm like, Paige had a panic attack there. You're like,

我感觉到了，我感觉到了，我看到β受体阻滞剂了，等等。

I sense I sense I saw beta blocker. Wait.

我还有别的事要说

I have something else to

等会儿再说。好，继续。兄弟，我走进去

say after this. Okay. Keep going. Dude, I walk in

我感觉好像有两周没跟你说话了。我知道。我想你。我走进来，就想，我想念佩奇。而且，我当时把一切都很当真，当你在这些后台里挣扎时我难受极了，可后来又觉得，我其实想念那段时光。

I feel like I haven't talked to you in, like, two weeks. I know. I miss you. I walk in, I'm like, I miss Paige. And, like, I take everything like, at the time, I felt horrible that you were, like, struggling in some of these green rooms, but then I was, like, missing it.

我当时想，要是佩奇在这儿就好了，我还试着说些可能让她感觉好一点的话。

I was like, I wish which page was here, and I was trying to, like, say things that might make her feel better.

我在无数个后台里长大，太疯狂了。

I've grown up in so many green rooms. It's crazy.

所以这是一种奇怪的感觉，脱口秀让我特别充实，因为我特别有创造力，像在构建我的一个小时段子；但后台又空落落的，我就想，要是佩奇在这儿就好了。

So it's this, like, weird feeling where, like, stand up is so fulfilling because I feel, like, so creative and I'm, like, building my hour. But then also it's like this emptiness of the green room where I'm like, I wish Paige was here

我知道。一想到你要巡演，我就想，天哪，她得跑那么多地方、准备那么多套衣服，我可不想受那份累，但我确实怀念。挺好的。

for know. I like knowing that you're going on tour, I'm like, oh my god. She has to travel so much and do so many outfits and I like don't envy that, but I miss I miss it. Good.

第二次巡演一结束，佩奇就说，我们什么时候再去？是啊，那是一种不同的……

This guy's the second tour was over. Paige is like, when can we go again? Yeah. It's like a different it's different level of

精神病级别。就是成就感不一样。

mental illness. Just feel a different level of accomplishment.

对，你会觉得充实。累得要命，但觉得充实。不过我要宣布——这就是我爱Gigglers的原因——我公布了巡演的第一段行程，当然还没覆盖全美。

Yeah. You you feel busy. Like, you're so tired, but you feel busy. But I am announcing my this is why I love the Gigglers. I announced, like, my first leg of the tour, and obviously, it's not all The States.

抱歉，我老揉眼睛，因为达芙妮的头发掉进去了。继续，我在听。

Sorry. I keep like rubbing my eye because I have like Daphne's hair in it. Keep going. I'm listening.

拿掉

Get

你头发挡到眼睛了。我要死了。

the hair out of your eye. I'm gonna die.

猫妈烦恼。不，这很疯狂。所以那些咯咯笑的人不会只是说，嘿，你什么时候来多伦多？他们会说，所以你他妈是讨厌多伦多？

Cat mom problems. No. It's crazy. So the gigglers don't just say, like, hey, when are you coming to Toronto? They'll be like, so you fucking hate Toronto?

对。或者他们会一直，一直这么搞笑又毒舌。他们会说，哦，酷。所以你考虑了纳什维尔，然后你想，不。我不想去纳什维尔。

Yeah. Or they're like, they're always, like, so funny and sassy with it. And they're like, oh, cool. So you thought about, you know, Nashville, and then you thought, no. I don't wanna go to Nashville.

所以今天，我宣布第二段巡演，去你们这些家伙说的，贱人，你他妈为什么不去北卡罗来纳？多伦多的姑娘们真的很生我的气。她们说，你他妈怎么还没来多伦多？但我正式宣布多伦多。我要在多伦多拍我的专场。

So so today, I'm announcing the second leg of all the states that you guys are like, bitch, where the why the fuck wouldn't you go to North Carolina? The Toronto girls were really mad at me. Like, they were like, how the fuck have you not done Toronto? But I'm officially announcing Toronto. I'm shooting my special in Toronto.

什么时候？

When is that?

二月。基本上，我有这几个月来为专场做准备。那是最后一场演出吗？我之后还有几场。

February. Basically, I have all these months to like prepare for the special. Is that the last show? I have like a couple after.

因为我本来想说，也许，只是提一下，如果你拍完想庆祝一下，我们可以去加拿大度个小滑雪假。谁滑雪？德斯。然后你和我可以去水疗。

Because I was gonna say, maybe, just putting it out there, like if you were to celebrate after filming that, we could go on like a little ski vacation in Canada. Who's skiing? Des. And you and I can go to the spa.

德斯和他那条瘸腿——对不起，宝贝。对不起，宝贝，如果你在听的话。不。德斯还在从前交叉韧带撕裂中恢复。

Des and his limp leg sorry, baby. I'm sorry, baby, if you're listening. No. Des is still recovering from his ACL tear.

对不起。我想去惠斯勒，但我甚至不知道那在哪儿。

Sorry. I'm trying to go to Whistler, but I don't even know where that is.

等等。我在惠斯勒扭伤过小指。

Wait. I sprained my pinky in Whistler.

哦，那就是你扭伤小拇指的地方。

Oh, that's where you sprained your pinky.

我没事。但我们有一个特点，我们会像

I'm okay. But one thing about us is we do rise like

凤凰一样涅槃。还有别的活法吗？

the phoenix. Is there any other way to be?

还有别的办法吗？我就像个球。我弹起来。我跌倒。

Is there any other way? I I'm like a ball. I bounce. I go down.

我

I go

马上又站起来。

right back up.

他们试图把你打倒。

They try and push you down.

你得重新站起来。

You gotta get back up.

所以我会去滑雪，但只和你一起。好吧。因为确实会变得太激烈。

So I will do skiing, but only with you. Okay. Because it does get too intense.

好的。那也许这个冬天我们休息一下。

Okay. Then So maybe it's this winter we take a break.

不。那不是我们的风格。

No. That's not our style.

不过这个冬天可能不适合我们。只是

It's not for us this winter though, maybe. Just

我愿意。

I'm down.

再说吧。再说吧。

We'll see. We'll see.

再说吧。说吧。在达芙妮的头发袭击你眼球、你把自己弄瞎之前，你想说什么？

We'll see. See. What were you gonna say before you got attacked by Daphne's hair in your eyeball and you blinded yourself?

每次我出门，我都会来月经。就像钟表一样。这是最疯狂的事情之一。我唯一兴奋的原因是能感觉到胸在变大的感觉，我当时想，我的裙子这个周末需要胸。所以，只要你想来，尽管来。

Anytime I go away, I get my period. It's like clockwork. It's the it's one of the craziest things. And the only reason why I was excited for it was because I could feel my boobs getting bigger, and I was like, my dresses need boobs this weekend. So, like, I so whenever you wanna come, absolutely rip it.

真的，我到的那天月经就来了。我说，完美。整个周末都有，周日。通常，在我冻卵之后，我的月经实际上曾经是整整六到七天。现在缩短到正常的三到五天。

Literally, the day I get there, my period comes. I'm like, perfect. I have it all weekend, Sunday. And usually, I'm like after I froze my eggs, my period actually used to be like a full six to seven days. It kinda cut down to like a a normal three to five.

太棒了。

That's amazing.

是啊。太好了。太喜欢了。所以周日晚上是，有，那个月食，就是，满月，就像，这种，多少年没发生过了。所以我在刷TikTok，刷到一个视频说，如果你现在来月经，你就是女巫。

Yeah. Lovely. Obsessed with it. So Sunday night is the there was, like, that lunar eclipse where, like, the full moon, and it was like, this, like, hasn't happened in however many years. So I'm on TikTok, and I get a TikTok that says, if you have your period right now, you're a witch.

你就是他们说的红女巫，意思是如果你在流血，你所有的敌人现在也在流血。所以我说，哦天哪。如果我的敌人这个周末过得很糟糕，我想知道。你能跟我确认一下吗？等等。

You're what they call a red witch, which means if you're bleeding, all of your enemies are bleeding now too. And so I was like, oh my god. If my enemies are having a really horrible weekend, I wanna know. Can you please check-in with me? Wait.

我刚刚

I just

想象你一个人待在酒店房间里，就像：不，我真的

envisioned you alone in your hotel room, like No. I'm literally

超级兴奋。

like, I was so excited.

我一直在想，我早就知道你是女巫。我们都知道。说点我不知道的。

I was I thinking over know I knew you're a witch. Like, we know. Like, tell me something I don't know.

他们说，你女巫到连跟你无关的东西都被你释放掉，这是代际的，你在帮祖先清理，就是这么灵、这么女巫。

They were like, you're such a witch that actually you're like releasing things that didn't even have to do with you. It's generational. Like, you're helping your ancestors. That's how like witchy and in tune you are.

我爱死这个说法了。爱死。我当时就迷上了。

I'm obsessed with that. Obsessed. I was obsessed with that.

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You've probably seen a million ads for hair growth products and thought, sure. Like, that actually works. Well, so did I. Until I found that Nutrafol isn't like the rest of them. Nutrafol is a physician formulated, clinically tested, and dermatologists recommend it.

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Find out why Nutrafol is the best selling hair growth supplement brand at nutrafol.com spelled nutraf0l.com, promo code giggly. That's nutrafol.com, promo code giggly.

我有个朋友。我不是……你别打断播客。不是吹牛，我有个朋友，算熟吧。最近我们聊得挺深，她随口一说：你知道吗，我喝醉的时候就能通灵。

So I have a friend. I don't I don't you go, and stop the pod. Not to brag, I have a friend who, like, I know, like, kind of okay. Recently, we, like, got into, like, a good chat, and I find out she just casually drops. She's like, you know, when I'm drunk, I, like, can tune in.

我当时就说，停，立刻打住。

And I'm like Stop. And stop right there.

是啊。调到什么？

Yeah. Tune in to what?

我收回所有说你的坏话。你这话什么意思？她说，我和我姨妈，如果我们想，就能连上。她还说，我只能在喝醉的时候做到。我就问，你到底在跟谁连？

I take back all the bad things I've said about you. What do you mean by this? And she's like, me and my aunt, like, can tap in if we if we want to. And she's like, and I can only do it when I'm drunk. And I'm like, who are you tapping tuning into?

她说，我一喝醉，就会有感觉。她说，在左边，她觉得要么是老人，要么是普通人，要么是

And she's like, when I get drunk, like, I feel things. She's like, I feel on the She said on the left side, I feel like it's either an older person or a regular person or a

不是普通、立刻的那种，随便啦。嗯。

not a regular, immediate, whatever. Yeah.

中年人。一个正常人或者

Middle aged. A normal person or

一个粗糙的人或者一个孩子，然后她就会有感觉。比如她在某人身边时，感觉像个老人，感觉有水，她就说我脚踝感觉有水，感觉有个老人想跟我说话，然后他们说“我爷爷死于

a rocky person or a a kid and then she like, will feel things. Like if someone like like she was like around someone and she felt like an older person and she felt like water and she was like hey I feel like water in my ankles and I feel like an older person trying to talk to me and they're like my grandpa died in a

船难。等等，汉娜。这个我觉得我应该找个能帮我的人一对一聊聊。我觉得如果我专注一点，我也能做到。

boating accident. Wait, Hannah. This I feel like I should like do a one on one with someone that could help me. I think I could also do that if I honed in on it.

于是我帮她谷歌了一下，上面大概说，喝醉时会屏蔽噪音，你会失去抑制，不再过度思考。因为清醒时她做不到。但她朋友就会说，喝醉啊，快喝醉。

So I googled it for her and it basically says like, when you're drunk, it tunes out the noise, like you're less you lose your inhibitions and you're just like, not overthinking anything. Because Yeah. She's so much sober, she can't. But like her friends would be like, get drunk, get drunk.

嗯。

Yeah.

但她说有时候她觉得自己是编造的，因为那些东西就像突然出现在她脑子里，她就直接说出来了。我告诉她我看过一个关于灵媒的纪录片，里面的灵媒都说自己有过“我怕我是在瞎编”的阶段。但其实那是真的。

But she says sometimes she doesn't she feels like she's making it up because it's just like coming to her and she's just saying it. And I told her that I watched a documentary about psychics where the psychics all have a time where they go, I'm afraid I'm like making it up. But it's like true.

有意思。

Interesting.

因为就像，他们看到东西然后说出来，但我还有另一个朋友，她喝醉的时候就会这样。但问题是，我说，哥们，这也太神了。她说，是啊，但我不能整天醉醺醺地给人占卜，这不现实。等等。

Because it's, like, you they're seeing things and saying things, but I've actually had another friend who, when she's drunk, this is what she does. But, like, the problem is, I was like, dude, this is incredible. And she's like, yeah, but I can't just be, like, hammered all day giving people readings. It's not sustainable. Wait.

你看到那个

Did you see the

女生发的TikTok吗，说波士顿的Angel，现在所有giggler都去找她，她跟其中一个giggler说，以前都是些 creepy 老男人来，现在预约的全是年轻女孩，你们能量最好，你们改变了我的整个生意。

girl that made the TikTok about Angel from Boston that, like, all the gigglers go to her now, and she, like, said to one of the gigglers, like, I used to have, like, old creepy men that would come, and now my now any appointments are all, like, young girls, and you guys have the best energy. Like, you've changed my whole business.

等等，我超——对。

Wait. I was so yes.

我超替她开心。

I was so happy for her.

好，所以giggly squad就是个女巫团，100%女巫团。私信我，如果你也是那种一喝醉就能通灵的人。

Okay. So giggly squad's a coven, a 100% a coven. So DM me if you're another person that like when you're drunk, you can like tune in.

或者如果你能——好，我觉得我需要，谁私信Hannah的话，如果你能也教教我，告诉我。因为我有那种感觉，这听起来会很疯。

Or if you can okay. I feel like I needed to and whoever DMs Hannah, if you could also coach me, let me know. Because I felt that way. This is gonna sound so crazy.

你喝醉的时候。

When you were drunk.

当我得到达芙妮的时候。因为当我得到她时，我手机里有一长串名字。而当我第一次抱起她时，我脑子里并不是“我想我会叫她达芙妮”这种想法，而是像有人告诉我那就是她的名字。感觉像是她自己在告诉你她叫什么，而我无法对任何人说，因为他们

When I got Daphne. Because when I got Daphne, I had a whole list of names in my phone. And when I, like, first held her, it wasn't like I thought of, oh, I think I'll name her Daphne. It was like it was told to me in my brain that, like, that was already her name. Like, she's telling you what her name is was the feeling I got, and I couldn't say that to anyone because they

会觉得，你他妈疯了。

were like, you're fucking person.

顺便说一句，我们绝不会在公共场合聊这些。

By the way, we would never have these kind of conversations in public.

就像，这是私密的——拜托别写成《第六页》文章

Like, this is a private this is like Please don't write a Page Six article

关于这件事。

about this one.

这要是

This went

传出去，大家会以为我们几个姑娘疯了。但我，就像，我有教练思维，因为我爷爷是教练。我跟她说，我们得训练这个，这真的很特别。

out to the public. Like, people would be like, these girls lost their fucking mind. But I, as like, I have like coach mentality, I think, because like, my grandpa was a coach. Right. And I told her, was like, we need to train this and like, this is a really special thing.

她说，我知道，但我还有别的事业要忙，等等等等。不过她也说，很多人都能调频，你只需要——这是需要练习的。我还帮她谷歌了，因为有人说冥想能帮你进入那种喝醉时的恍惚状态。但这太疯狂了。现在我在想，要是我和她一起喝醉，我爷爷却没出现，那我是不是就再也联系不上她了？

And she's like, I know, but like, I have like another career I'm trying to do and da da da. But she also said there are a lot of people that can tune in, you just have to like, is something you have to See, have work to And I was googling it for her because people also said like meditation can help you get in that trance like state that you get when you're drunk. But it's crazy. And now I'm, what if I get drunk with her and my grandpa doesn't come through and then I can't talk to her again?

有灵媒告诉我，因为我跟好多灵媒提过，问我该怎么精进。有灵媒说，你别练了，因为你现在其实没那么在乎这件事

I had a psychic tell me because I've, like, brought it up to multiple psychics, like, how do I really, like, hone in on it? And I've had psychics be like, you don't because you don't really, like, care that much about it right now

嗯。

Yeah.

你直到有了孩子才会真正专注于此，因为你想对他们的一举一动了如指掌。所以那时候你才能真正成为通灵者。所有意大利妈妈都是通灵的。我就说，我已经在练习了。不。

You're not gonna really hone in on it until you have children because you want to be psychic with what they're doing. So that's when you'll really be able to be a psychic. All Italian moms are psychic. And I'm like, I'm already practicing. Like, no.

你不能去。我看到这不是个好主意，你不能去。

You're not going. I saw that it's not a good idea, and you're not going.

说到妈妈，如果你还没看过《鲶鱼短信》纪录片，那现在就是你的责任了。现在，当我收到恶意评论时，我会说，Leonora 一直在悄悄行动。

Speaking of moms, if you haven't watched the catfish texting documentary, that's on you now. Like, that's on you. Now, when I get a mean comment, I go, Leonora has been acting quietly.

现在，当我收到恶意评论时，人们就会发那位女士的照片，然后说，这就是在你 Instagram 上评论的人。我就觉得，这让我感觉好多了。

Well, now when I get a mean comment, like, people will just, like, post that lady's picture and be like, this is who's commenting on your Instagram. And I'm like, it makes me feel so much better.

那部纪录片其实帮我理解了什么是网络喷子，就像是一种精神疾病，人们把自己所有的垃圾都投射到别人身上。她一直在用可怕的话骚扰她女儿，但如果你把自己放在网上，这就是你可能会遇到的情况。

That documentary actually helped you understand, like, what trolling is, where it's just like, it's a mental illness and people who, like, are projecting all their shit onto people. And she was just harassing her daughter with horrible things, but, like, that's what you can experience online if you put yourself out there.

是啊。如果你抓住

Yeah. If you take

一个机会。

a chance.

如果你追逐梦想。所以

If you chase your dream. So

如果你公开追逐梦想，试着转换视角，不要去看评论。

try to shift your perspective if you're out here chasing your dream in a public way, not to not to read the comments.

等等。我有件事想说，是啊，既然现在是开学季和秋天，我真的迫不及待想回到工作室。我有一把椅子想给我们买。嗯。

Wait. I have something I wanna bring up Yeah. Since it's, like, back to school and fall, and I I truly do can't wait to get back into, a studio. I have, like, I have a chair that I wanna get for us. Mhmm.

我觉得我把表格弄完了。总之，这根本不是我刚才在说的事。

I think I'm done with the table. Anyway, that's not even what I was talking about.

哦，好吧。是的。所以我

Oh, okay. Yes. So I

我在跟我的一个闺蜜聊天，我就说，哇，我小时候开学最喜欢的事就是去买文具。就像——是的。你那时候就能看出我有多挑剔，因为我特别讲究什么颜色配什么，那一年我是什么风格，我的主题是什么？

was talking to one of my girlfriends, and I was, like, wow. My favorite thing when I was little for back to school was to go school supplies shopping. Like Yes. You could have seen my type a then because I was so particular on, like, what color went with what, and what was my vibe that year? What was my theme?

比如，我的背包得搭配——我对这特别疯。我妈得跑好几家店，买了又退。氛围不对我们就退，两年前我们还这么干。

Like, what was like, my backpack had to go with, like I was very crazy about it. Like, my mom had to go into multiple stores, buy and return. It wasn't the vibe we did that two years ago.

你就像“春天穿碎花，隔壁 groundbreaking”那种。

You're, like, florals for spring groundbreaking next door.

我确实是个小怪物。所以我跟闺蜜说，哎，你什么时候去搞开学大采购？然后她说，哦，不用了，现在不那样了。我说，啥？

I mean, I definitely was a monster. So I'm, like, talking to my girlfriend, and I'm like, oh, when do you have to do, like, all the back to school shopping? And, like and she was like, oh, no. Like, it's not like that anymore. And I go, pardon?

她说，你只要给学校交一百块，他们全帮你买好。不。然后大家东西都一样，就没有什么开学购物了，就是交个费领东西。我——

And she goes, you can just give the school, like, a $100, and they get all the stuff. No. And then, like, everyone has the same thing, and then, like, there's no, like, back to school shopping. It's just, like, you pay dues and you get your stuff. And I

难道没有个性了吗？

go Is there no individualism?

在买文具这件事上——我就像，可要是你不想这么干呢？

In school supply shop like, I was I was like, but what if you don't wanna do that?

要是配色不对呢

What if the color scheme is not like

我当时想，如果他们把科学弄成蓝色，那明显是

I was like, what if they make science blue when that's clearly

绿色。

Green.

给数学？科学是绿色的，对吧？对。科学就是绿色。

For math? Like, what Science is green though. Right? Yep. Well, science is green.

等等，还有一件事关于灵媒。你有没有见过灵媒说，嘿，告诉我我在想什么颜色？嗯。

Wait. One more thing about psychics. Do you ever see a psychic be like, hey. Tell me what color I'm thinking? Mhmm.

然后我想一个颜色，他们就说那个颜色。这在我身上发生过两次。所以大家就把我当

And I think a color and then they say that color. That's happened to me like twice. So just everyone treat me I

这周末我在托斯卡纳做了个按摩。

got a massage this weekend in Tuscany.

太不接地气了。她说，你知道当你在托斯卡纳做按摩的时候吗？你知道当

So unrelatable. She goes, you know when you're in Tuscany getting a massage? You know when

你在托斯卡纳，然后你说，我去个水疗吧。

you're in Tuscany and you're like, let me go to the spa.

你会觉得，不在托斯卡纳这按摩就没感觉。继续。

You're like, this massage won't hit unless I'm in Tuscany. Continue.

他们做了个小仪式，她拿了些不同的水晶。她说，选两个对你有感应的水晶。那就是我们需要调理的脉轮，你来告诉我。在进按摩房前，我

And they did this little ritual thing where she had, like, different crystals. And she said, pick two crystals crystals that that speak speak to to you. You, And and that that is the chakras that we need to work on, and you tell me. Now prior to going into this massage, I have

这个

this

这位漂亮可爱的小意大利女孩对我说，我知道你是谁。我说，真的吗？你怎么知道我是谁？她说，我看了很多美剧。这里没人认识你。

gorgeous, cute, little Italian girl say to me, I know who you are. And I go, you do? How do you know who I am? And she goes, I watch a lot of American TV. No one here knows who you are.

我看《避暑屋》。我说，我超迷你的。太谢谢了。我们就一直聊啊聊。然后她拿出水晶，我就挑了两块。

I watch Summerhouse. And I'm like, I'm obsessed with you. Thank you so much. We're chatting, chatting, chatting. So then she does she presents the crystals, and so I pick two of them.

一块，所以我就挑了它们，

One and so I picked them,

她说，这太适合你了。我，我迫不及待想听。

and she goes, they're so you. And I I, like, couldn't wait to hear.

我说，那是什么？一块对应喉咙。她说，嗯，你话很多。另一块对应我的下背。我说，嗯，我什么都扛在背上。你懂的。

I was like, well, what is One was like your throat. She was like, well, you talk a lot. And the other one was my lower back. And I was like, well, I'm carrying everything on my back. Like, you get it.

于是我们就根据这个做了按摩。

And so we did, like, the massage based on that.

我想发明一种瑜伽裤，带一条真正能支撑下背部的宽腰带。就像，你看建筑工人穿的那种，都是为了下背，但那种又笨又丑又很爷们，搞得好像下背痛多戏剧化似的。但有时候，嗯，我有骨盆前倾。这就说得通了。

I wanna invent a yoga pant that has a really good band that supports your lower back. Like, you know, you see construction workers that wear those, like it's all for their lower back, but, it's very bulky and gross and very manly, like, making it, like, so dramatic your lower back hurts. But sometimes Well, I have a tilted pelvis. And that makes sense.

那是

And that's

是向后倾还是你知道方向吗？

Is it tilting backward or do you know?

前倾、后倾？我的骨盆往后倒，我总得去纠正它，因为那样肩膀会疼，姿势也差。所以我总是把骨盆往前顶。

Forward, backward? My pelvis tilts back, and I have to always, like, try and correct it because then my shoulders hurt, my posture is bad. So I'm always tilting my pelvis forward.

我们根本不知道骨盆是什么。

And we don't know what a pelvis is.

我一直在跟我的骨盆较劲。

I'm always trying to work with my pelvis.

你刚才提到——哦，对，秋天。我着迷的不是任何颜色，这就很我们，但我迷的是质感。比如，我的笔得是那种墨水笔，不能太湿也不能太干，但它得……就很……

You were bringing up oh, yeah. The fall. I was obsessed not with the colors of anything, this is so us, but I was obsessed with, like, the texture. Like, I needed my pen to be an inky pen, and not too inky, not too dry, but it needed to it was very, like

瞧，我不是圆珠笔党。我不是圆珠笔党。太脏了，会蹭到手。真的。

See, wasn't a ballpoint girl. I was not a ballpoint girl. It was too messy. It would get on my hand. True.

看，我就想要那样。我想离开时感觉刚在墨水里泡了个澡。

See, I wanted that. I wanted to leave feeling like I just bathed in ink.

对啊，你像在卖力干活。瞧瞧。

Yeah. You, like, put in the work. Look at it.

我想要滑到飞起

I wanted it to be slide city

嗯。

Yeah.

就像贾斯汀·比伯写歌时说的。因为手感对我来说真的很重要。

As Justin Bieber would say when I'm writing. Cause like the feel was really important to me.

如果你放学回家时身上没点伤，那你真的上过学吗？你就是这种感觉。你会觉得，如果我身上没点痕迹，就说明我学习得还不够努力。

If you didn't have wounds at the end of the day, did you even go to school? Is how you felt. You were like, if I don't have something to show for it, I wasn't learning hard enough.

是啊，我想回家。我妈说，你是去打仗了吗？我说，是的。

Yeah. I wanted to get home. My mom was like, were you in a war? Yeah. And I'm like, yes.

说到秋天，我有个穿搭问题想问你。好吧。关于靴子。嗯，我们是穿方头的，还是穿尖头的？我会说‘呃’。

Speaking of fall, I have a style question for you. Okay. With boots. Yeah. Are we doing square toes or are are we doing pointed would say Ugh.

因为我在网上看到一些内容，女生们在推方头的，而你知道的，我的脚比较短粗，所以我就想，啊，我喜欢尖头的。

Because I've seen some stuff online, the girls are trying to push the square And as you know, I have nubby feet, so I was like, oh, I like the point.

你知道吗，有趣的是，我小时候每个季节都会听到我妈说，尖头过时了，方头过时了。在我们家，这简直是个大事。不是我们家。

You know what's funny? Because I feel like when I was younger, every season, my mom would I would always hear my mom be like, pointy toes out. Square toes out. Like, that was such a thing in our house. Not our house.

我们差别太大了。

We had such difference.

我们俩。她说，不，我们不只是指向——你是

Two of us. She was like, no. We're not just pointing to Are

你进还是出？这就是

you in or are you out? That was the

所以这句话我觉得我从小听到大，比如，尖头还是方头？还是V型设计？说实话，我觉得两种都流行。我就爱那种超尖的尖头和喇叭牛仔裤。我觉得太带劲了。

So that's, like, a phrase that I feel like I've heard my whole life, like, pointy toe or square? Or V design? Honestly, I think both are in style. Like, I just love a fuck ass pointy the pointiest toe ever and a big flare jean. Like, I just think it's so cunty.

没错。

Yes.

但我也觉得，比如，方头鞋和一条很酷的裤子，就很有艺术感。

But I also think, like, there is something so artistic about, like, a square toe and, like, a really cool pair of pants.

好，好，那我准备好了。

Okay. Okay. So now I'm ready.

就是，看整套衣服需要什么。比如，如果你戴的是假眼镜，我觉得你就会穿方头鞋，你知道，她不一样，她……但如果你穿的是七分裤，你就会穿尖头鞋。

It's, like, what the outfit calls for. Like, if you're going, like, if you're wearing like fake glasses, I feel like you're wearing square toe. You know, like she's different. She's like but if you're wearing like capris, you're wearing pointy.

好。其实你说得挺有见地的。你看VMA了吗，或者有没有看到那些造型？

Okay. Actually, that was super insightful. Did you watch the VMAs or see any of the VMAs looks and stuff?

我只看了些造型。我其实没看——真的没看，完全没看，但确实瞄了几眼造型。

I just saw some of the looks. I didn't really watch I didn't not really. I didn't watch it at all, but I did see some of the looks.

你觉得怎么样？VMA一直挺实验性的，就是……嗯。

What were your thoughts? It's very experimental, the VMAs. Like, it's Yeah.

我喜欢VMA，因为你想怎么来就怎么来，真的可以把它变成你自己的风格。不过说实话，可能只是因为现在我们年纪大了。嗯。我就觉得小时候看VMA更……毕竟我们成长于Lady Gaga穿生肉裙的时代。对啊。

I love the VMAs because you can do whatever you want and you can, like, really, like, make it your own. I will say, maybe it's just because I'm we're older now. Mhmm. I just feel like when we were younger, the VMAs were a little bit more I mean, we grew up in the era of Lady Gaga showed up in a meat dress. Yeah.

现在没人这么干了？

No one's doing that?

嗯，有个说法是Z世代怕“尴尬”，我之前不知道。我刷到一堆TikTok都说：“别怕尴尬”。

Well, there's this whole concept of like, Gen Zs worried about being cringe, which I didn't know. I didn't know about this. And I get all these TikToks being like, don't be afraid to be cringe.

想知道为什么吗？因为现在的人刻薄多了。

Do you wanna know why? Because people are so much meaner now.

你想想，那时候你其实没看过多少自己的照片。我说的是脸书出现之前。

Well, if you think about it, back then, you didn't look at a lot of photos of yourself. And I'm talking about, like, pre Facebook.

对，就像。

Like Yeah.

你

Do you

要知道，青少年偶尔才会看到一张自己的照片，但

realize teen teenagers, like, occasionally you'd see a photo of yourself, but

没错。

like Right.

现在我们整个人生都在看自己的照片。这本来不该这样。我觉得，是的。然后，大家都在产出关于自己的视频，所以很容易开始对内容刻薄起来。

Now our whole lives is looking at photos of ourselves. Like, that's not meant to be. I I think, think yeah. And then, yeah, like, everyone's producing videos of themselves, So I guess it is easy to start, like, being mean girls about the content.

我的意思是，‘喷子’这个概念当时还没出现。人们更谨慎去留恶意评论，因为评论很少，而且一切都追溯到你自己，那时候还没有假脸书账号，因为你必须绑定学校，得证明那就是你。我觉得匿名的东西得有点监管。

I mean, the concept of, like, trolling hadn't, like, happened yet. People were more skeptical to, like, leave a mean comment because there were so few comments and you didn't and, everything like, was traced back to you, like you weren't people didn't have like fake Facebooks yet because it you literally had to be attached to your school, you had to prove that was you. I just feel like there needs to be some type of regulation of like anonymous things.

我们正努力营造女性支持女性的积极氛围，我能说一个我觉得会突破的人吗？突破什么？就像流行文化

In some positivity of women supporting women, which we're trying to do, can I say a person I think I want to break through? Break through what? Like pop culture

可以。

Yeah.

像VMA。对，丽贝卡·布莱克。

Like VMAs. Yeah. Rebecca Black.

我不知道那是谁。

I don't know who that is.

好吧，这是第一个问题。

Okay, that's a first problem.

好吧，对不起。我已经熟透了，快33岁了。

Okay, Sorry. I'm a ripe I'm almost 33.

不。这就是你应该知道她是谁的原因。她在唱《星期五，星期五》。

No. This is why you should know who she is. She's saying, Friday, Friday.

我确实知道是谁。

I do know who are.

好吧。好吧。如果你还没关注她，她已经……我不想说“重新包装”，因为这叫《她长大了》。是的。她给人的感觉，就像你知道Addison Rae出现在VMA上时，穿着那件最酷的、像挺立胸型的胸罩，大家都觉得那很怪。

Okay. Okay. If you haven't checked her out, she has had I don't wanna say rebrand because it's called She Grew Up. Yeah. She's giving, like you know how Addison Rae showed up to the VMAs with, like, the coolest, like, perky breast bra thing that everyone was like, that's weird.

她太用力过猛了。

She's such a try hard.

她是啊。对对对。

She's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

一个假货，随便吧。

A fake, whatever.

哦，就像那种尖的

Oh, like the pointy

是啊是啊。就是现在Miu Miu在最新广告里做的那种，不是我对Miu Miu上头。Rebecca Black在一个

Yeah. Yeah. The which now, like, Miu Miu's doing in their latest campaign, not to be a fashion girl obsessed with you, Miu Miu. Rebecca Black In a

到处都是热量赤字的世界里，不，杀了我吧，真的杀了我。不，一位智者曾对我说，她说如果你想屁股稍微翘一点，那你就得接受肚子也稍微有一点肉。

world full of like caloric deficit no. Kill me. Literally fucking kill me. No. A wise woman once said to me, she said if you wanna have a little bit of a fat ass, you have to also have a little bit of a stomach.

是我说的吗？

Did I say that?

那位智者就是Hannah的座椅加热器。我想大概是五六年前你对我说的。我当时说，你知道吗？谢谢你，谢谢你。

And that wise woman was Hannah's seat burner. And I think you said that to me about five to six years ago. And I said, you know what? Thank you. Thank you.

因为，是啊，如果你想要这些后面的小赘肉

Because, yeah, if you want all this junk

那你就得接受

in the back, you're gonna have to deal with

我肚子上的一点肉。所以别管我，别管我。

a little bit of my stomach. So leave me be. Leave me be.

但话说回来，像Rebecca Black这种人，我讨厌别人说因为你走过的路就不能去哪儿。比如Addison Rae来自路易斯安那，她显然不是在下东区拍酷独立电影才走到今天的。我讨厌别人说，不，你没走过这条路就不能到那儿。这叫守门。

But with that said, like, Rebecca Black is one of those people, I hate when people say you can't go somewhere because of like, what your path was to get there. Like, Addison Rae's from Louisiana. Obviously, she wasn't doing cool indie films in, you know, the Lower East Side to like become where she is. And I hate when people are like, no, you can't get there unless you've done this path. That's called gatekeeping.

嗯哼。就像我一样，我从真人秀到现在做脱口秀，人们会评判你怎么来的，而不是

Mhmm. And it's like similar to me. Like, I was in reality TV to now stand up, and people can judge, like, how you got there instead of

而且这也，有点像

It's also it's, like, kind

就像人们讨厌“关系户”一样。那你想让他们怎么做？干脆别活了？就像，你想让他们说，好吧，我父母有名，所以我应该什么都不做。

of similar to how people hate nepo babies. It's, well, what do you want them to do? Just, like, not exist? Like, do you want them to just be, like, you're right. My parents are famous, so I should just never do anything.

那你想让他们怎么做？

Like, what do you want them to do?

当你看到那种特别厉害的，比如，Trinity Rodman——这有点体育八卦——但她正在跟Ben Shelton约会，那可是现在最火的老美网球帅哥。Trinity Rodman，火辣足球妹，踢得炸裂。她爸是Dennis Rodman。她就该是球场上最能跳的女孩。我就想看到这种，看她踢球时飞起来碾压对手。

When you see, like, an amazing like, for example, Trinity Rodman is this is, like, getting into sports tea, but she's dating Ben Shelton, who's, like, the hottest American tennis guy right now. Trinity Rodman, hot soccer girl crushing it. Her dad's her dad's Dennis Rodman. As she should be the most athletic girl on the I want that's what I wanna see. I wanna see her jump on bitches playing soccer.

她天生就是那块料。对，我就烦那些“关系户”还说，其实这反而是劣势。

She comes from that elk. I yeah. I don't like when nipple babies are just like, it actually was a disadvantage.

我最讨厌的一点，好像从小就这样，就是浪费天赋。我会看到，比如，我那些闺蜜，在某些我做不到的事上比我强，比如运动。对，然后她们就不去做，或者不想做。我就一脸懵：你在说啥？

Well, I think, like, one of my biggest pet peeves is and I feel like I've been like this since I was little, is wasted potential. Like, I would see, like, my, like, my other girlfriends who were, like, better at things that I wasn't good at, like athletics. Yeah. And, like, they would just maybe, like, not do it or, like, not wanna do it. And I and I would just be like, what are you talking about?

你这么厉害，为啥不干？我超讨厌浪费天赋。所以当我看到那种天生起跑线就领先却还不利用的人，我就想：你在干嘛？比如看到信托基金小孩，爸妈富得流油，自己却从来没上过一天班，我就想，你就是个废物。

You're so good. Like, why would you not do this? I hate wasted potential. So when I see someone who has been born with a leg up already and doesn't take advantage of it, I'm like, what are you doing? So, like, when I see, like, trust fund kids who, like, their parents have the most money in the world and they literally have never had a job, I'm like, you're a waste.

你就是个废物。

You're a waste.

去干点啥啊。开个慈善机构也行。

Like, do something. Start a charity.

开什么玩笑？你们是不是希望Addison Rae也是“关系户”？要是她爸妈是流行明星，她当流行明星就更合理了？那到底该怎么成功才对？而且你自己也不知道自己想成为什么。

Are you kidding? Like, do you guys wish Addison Rae was a Neppo baby? Would that make more sense for you, for her to become a pop star if her parents were a pop star? It's like, how is the right way to get somewhere? Also, you don't know what you wanna be.

所以就像，抱歉，我当初也不知道自己想干嘛，结果上了个真人秀，然后宇宙就说，那不是你的归宿

So it's like, sorry, I didn't know what I wanted to be and I ended up on a reality show and then the universe was like, that's not what you're meant