《硬分叉》2025年最具标志性的50项技术

我真的很讨厌这样。

I really hate it.

我喜欢给小费。

I love tipping people.

没错。

Yeah.

但我不喜欢给没有生命的东西小费。

I do not love tipping inanimate objects.

好吧。

Alright.

以上就是来自Hard Fork播客的小费建议。

And there's your tip from the Hard Fork podcast.

第39条：塑料吸管。

Number 39, plastic straws.

哇。

Wow.

塑料吸管今年可真是风光无限啊。

What a big year plastic straws had.

在经历了多年的冷落后，我们开始使用那些会在嘴里融化的纸吸管。

After many years in the wilderness, we were doing those paper straws, you know, that melt in your mouth.

但自2025年2月起，塑料吸管强势回归——总统签署了第14208号行政令，终止采购并强制使用纸吸管，正式结束了纸吸管的恐怖统治，尽管它们号称环保，却根本没法当吸管用。

But as of February 2025, plastic straws are so back, the president signed executive order one four two zero eight, ending procurement and forced use of paper straws, which has officially ended the the reign of terror of paper straws, which for all their supposed benefits don't actually work as straws.

有意思。

Interesting.

其实很多人不知道，凯文特别喜欢微塑料，总想方设法让更多微塑料进入自己体内。

Well, you know, something that not a lot of people know about Kevin is that he loves microplastics, and he's always looking for more ways to get them into his body.

关于纸吸管和它们本应替代的塑料吸管，我有两个有趣的事实。

I have two fun facts about paper straws and the plastic straws that they were supposed to replace.

反对塑料吸管的运动始于2011年，当时佛蒙特州一个九岁男孩米洛·克雷斯做了个学校科学项目。

The campaign against plastic straws was started back in 2011 when a nine year old Vermont boy, Milo Kress, did a school science project.

作为项目的一部分，他估算美国人每天使用5亿根吸管。

And as part of that project, estimated that Americans were using 500,000,000 straws a day.

哦，

Oh,

哇。

wow.

许多人对此提出质疑，表示实际数字远低于此。

Many people sort of took issue with that and said it's the the real number is much lower than that.

但这就是整件事的起源。

But that is how this all got started.

第二个有趣的事实，你知道那个九岁男孩米洛·克雷斯现在在哪里工作吗？

And second fun fact, do you know where that nine year old boy, Milo Kress, works today?

他在哪里工作？

Where is that?

Anthropic。

Anthropic.

是这样吗？

Is that right?

没错。

That's right.

哇。

Wow.

他有发表过

Has he made

关于纸吸管这整件事的声明吗？

a statement about the whole paper straw thing?

没有。

No.

不过你可以问问你男朋友。

But you should ask your boyfriend.

我好奇Anthropic公司里是不是在用塑料吸管。

I wonder if they're using plastic straws at Anthropic.

我打赌他们没用。

I bet they're not.

有意思。

Interesting.

第38号产品，Humate AI智能徽章。

Number 38, the Humate AI pin.

这款徽章堪称2025年的标志性产品。

This pin is a true icon of 2025.

它上市时，公司的联合创始人——几位苹果前员工——用极其浮夸戏剧化的方式发布，仿佛自己是乔布斯转世般宣传。

When it came out, it was, you know, it sort of announces very showy dramatic way by the company's cofounders who used to work at Apple and sort of presented it as if they were the second coming of Steve Jobs.

但实际开售后，遗憾的是这产品糟糕透顶。

And then the pin actually went on sale, and it sucked, unfortunately.

你用过这款产品吗？

Did you ever get to use one?

我在发布前看过一些演示，那些都是高度控制且精心设计的场景。

Well, I got to see some demos before they launched it, which were sort of, like, highly controlled and very manicured.

后来甚至有前员工告诉我：'你根本不知道我们为了让演示功能正常运行付出了多少努力'。

And I was sort of even told by, like, some former employees afterwards, like, you don't even know what we went through to get those things to do, even what they did for you during the demo.

但到了去年，凯文，这款胸针的退货量超过了销量。

But by last year, Kevin, the pin had more returns than sales.

而在二月份，这款胸针被惠普收购，我猜它现在只是个打印机了。

And in February, the pin sold to HP, and I guess it's now just a printer.

是的。

Yes.

它是个打印机，而且非常便宜。

It's a printer, and it's very cheap.

但如果你想加墨水，那价格能让你倾家荡产。

But if you wanna refill the ink, it's gonna cost you an arm and a leg.

第37号，年龄验证。

Number 37, age verification.

听着。

Listen.

你知道，凯文和我成长的那个年代，你可以随心所欲地访问任何网站。

You know, Kevin and I grew up in a time when you could go on any website for any reason.

你知道吗，可能会弹出一个小下拉框写着：嘿，

You you know, there might be a little drop down that says, hey.

你满18岁了吗？

Are you 18?

然后你明明才11岁坐在那儿，

And, you know, you'd be sitting there and you're, like, 11.

却会回答：是啊，

You'd be like, yeah.

我他妈当然18岁了。

Like, I'm 18 as hell.

接着你就会看到这辈子见过最疯狂的东西。

And, you know, then you just, like, see, like, the craziest thing you've ever seen in your life.

没错。

Yeah.

不过现在各州终于开始严查这种行为了。

Well, finally, states are cracking down on this.

原因基本上就是，几十年来法院一直表示不能进行年龄验证，因为这会给成年人带来非法负担。

And the reason is that just basically, after decades of courts saying, no, you can't do age verification because it places an illegal burden on adults.

成年人如果只是想访问一个网站，不应该被迫透露任何个人信息，因为这涉及言论自由问题。

Adults should not have to tell you anything about themselves if they want to access a website because that's a free speech issue.

最近法院的态度却变成了：不，这样没问题。

Lately, courts have just been like, no.

实际上是可以的。

That's actually fine.

尽管去通过你们的法律吧。

Go ahead and pass your laws.

如果你想建立某种系统，突然要求人们上传驾照才能浏览网站，那也没问题。

If you wanna, you know, create some sort of system where all of a sudden you have to upload a, you know, driver's license to look at a website, that's fine too.

所以现在凯文，至少半数州已经通过了这类法律。

And so now, Kevin, at least half of states now have these laws.

标志性事件。

Iconic.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以我打算绘制一张地图，标出那些我称之为‘酷州’的地方，在那里如果你想浏览互联网，就不需要进行年龄验证。

So I'm gonna try to create a map of what I call the cool states where you don't need to do age verification if you wanna look at the Internet.

但与此同时，从统计数据来看，大约一半的美国人现在正面临这类问题。

But in the meantime, you know, statistically, something like half of Americans are now living with one of these issues.

没错。

Yep.

第36条，格里高利历。

Number 36, the Gregorian calendar.

哦，天哪。

Oh, boy.

凯西，这一条确实在很多方面影响了我们所有人的生活。

Now, Casey, this one really did affect all of our lives in many ways.

尤其是今年。

Especially this year.

是啊。

Yeah.

尤其是今年。

Especially this year.

今年是闰年吗？

Was this a leap year?

总之，这就是我们现在都在使用的日历。

Anyway, this is the calendar that we now all use.

它于1582年10月生效。

It went into effect in October 1582.

它以教皇格里高利十三世命名，旨在纠正之前儒略历的不准确性。

It was named after pope Gregory the thirteenth, and it was introduced to address the inaccuracies of the previous calendar, the Julian calendar.

终于。

It was Finally.

你知道我们等了多久才等到他们修正这些误差吗？

Do you know how long we had to wait for them to fix those inaccuracies?

老实说，这简直太疯狂了。

Honestly, honestly, it is crazy.

这基本上算是第一个软件补丁。

This was basically the first software patch.

是的。

Yes.

它的设计初衷是为了修正之前儒略历的不准确性，因为儒略历在闰日计算上不够精确，导致误差逐渐累积。

And it was designed to address the inaccuracies of the previous calendar, the Julian calendar, which was sort of growing inaccurate because it wasn't counting leap days exactly right.

要知道，教皇格里高利十三世或他的幕僚们当时就想，我们得解决这个问题。

And, you know, Pope Gregory the thirteenth or whoever worked for him was like, we should just fix this.

没错。

Yes.

你知道他们是怎么做到的吗？

And you know how they did it?

怎么做的？

How?

他们让我们快了大约十天。

They sped us up by about ten days.

这太美妙了。

That's so beautiful.

你知道吗，那些负责儒略历的蠢蛋们把一年定为365.25天，这也太离谱了吧？

You know, the the idiots who ran the Julian calendar were they made a year that was three hundred and sixty five point two five days long, which is like, really?

然后格里高利历的制定者来了，他们说，没错，

And then the Gregorians come along, and they say, yeah.

应该是365.2425天，这一改就解决所有问题了。

It should be three hundred and sixty five point two four two five days, and it fixed everything.

这说明吹毛求疵也有好处。

Which goes to show you, pedantry has benefits.

确实如此。

It really does.

第35号，La Boo Boo。

Number 35, La Boo Boo.

哦，天哪。

Oh, boy.

2025年的故事若没有La Boo Boo，凯文，就无从谈起。

The story of 2025 truly could not be told without the La Boo Boo, Kevin.

尽管La Boo Boo实际上起源于十年前。

Although the La Boo Boo actually originated ten years ago.

你

Did

知道吗？

know that?

是的。

Yeah.

确实如此。

It did.

它是艺术家Kasing Lung的绘本系列《怪物》中的一个角色。

It was a character in the artist Kasing Lung's storybook series, the monsters.

他在荷兰长大，受到北欧民间传说和童话故事的启发，创造了这些顽皮却心地善良的精灵物种。

He grew up in The Netherlands and had been inspired by Nordic folklore and fairy tales and so created these mischievous kind hearted elf species.

2019年，这些收藏玩具与泡泡玛特公司进行了合作。

And in 2019, these collectible toys did a a collaboration with the company Pop Mart.

到了2025年，它彻底火爆全网。

And then in 2025, it was just absolutely viral.

它们无处不在。

They're everywhere.

这真是一场狂热，人们怎么都收集不够这些Lububus。

It was a true craze, and people just could not get their hands on enough Lububus.

你有多少只Lububus？

How many Lububus do you have?

我不得不买了第二套房子，专门用来展示我收藏的所有Lububus。

I had to get a second home just to kind of put my collection on display to show off all my Lububus.

这简直太经典了。

And that is iconic.

是啊。

Yeah.

我觉得你对Lububus没什么可说的。

I feel like you don't have anything to say about the Lububus.

嗯，我家孩子还不到渴望Lububu的年纪，但我确实很欣赏网球选手大坂直美今年为锦标赛定制的一系列Lububus，其中一款还以传奇网球选手比利·简·金命名。

Well, my my kid is not old enough to covet a Lububu yet, but I did appreciate when Naomi Osaka, the tennis player, had a series of custom Lububus designed for her run at a tournament this year, including one named after the legendary tennis player, Billie Jean King.

那个Lububu名叫'比利·简闪耀'，我很喜欢这个名字。

The Lububu was named Billie Jean Bling, and I like that.

这挺不错的。

That's pretty good.

我还以为他们会叫它'拉比利比利'呢。

I would have thought they would have called it the La Billy Billy.

第34号，人造的

Number 34, artificial

圣诞树。

Christmas trees.

今年这件事一直萦绕在我心头，因为我们家刚买了第一棵人造圣诞树。

This one is really on my mind this year because my family just got our first artificial Christmas tree.

这不对。

It's not right.

而且，你知道，这让我不禁思考，嘿。

And, you know, it it it made me wonder, hey.

是谁想出了用假树代替真树的主意？

Who came up with this idea of using a fake tree instead of a real tree?

是什么样的技术天才想出了这个主意？

What kind of technological genius had that idea?

是啊。

Yeah.

原来这些最早出现在19世纪的德国，是用染色的鹅毛制成的。

It turns out these were first introduced in the nineteenth century in Germany where they were made out of dyed goose feathers.

是这样吗？

Is that right?

是的。

Yes.

我倒是很想自己动手做一个，但上哪儿去找那么多染色的鹅毛呢？

Now I would have loved to have built one myself, but where am I gonna get a bunch of dyed goose feathers?

你得先抓几只鹅才行。

You gotta catch some geese first.

但其实我想把这个话题稍微扩展一下，把真圣诞树也包括进来，因为...什么？

But this this is actually I I wanna broaden this one out a little bit to also include real Christmas trees because after What?

对。

Yes.

因为在科技之后。

Because after technology.

今年我在研究中发现，人造圣诞树——我原以为对环境更友好，毕竟不用去砍伐那么多真树——

Well, during my research this year, I discovered that artificial Christmas trees, which I thought would be better for the environment, you know, you're not going down there and chopping out a bunch of trees.

实际上有人认为它们对环境更不利，因为有些不可回收，最终会被填埋处理。

Actually, some people think they're actually worse for the environment because they're nonrecyclable, some of them, and they end up in landfills.

事实上，健康的造林对环境是有益的。

And actually, healthy forestation is good for the environment.

所以或许，你知道的，在决定购买人造圣诞树之前，就像人们说的那样，先自己做做研究，不过我很喜欢我的树。

So maybe, you know, maybe just do your do your own research as they say before you decide to go for an artificial Christmas tree, but I'm loving mine.

我认为我的建议是

I think here's what I think you should

如果你买了人造圣诞树，也许可以多用几年。

if you get artificial Christmas tree, maybe just keep it for a few years.

你懂吗？

You know?

不要每年都换新的。

Don't get a new one every year.

对。

Yeah.

那样对环境可能会更好。

That'll probably be better for the environment.

33号，克劳德。

Number 33, Claude.

代码。

Code.

这当然是Anthropic今年发布的自主编码代理，对于各类代理式AI工具来说，今年都是重要的一年。

This is, of course, the autonomous coding agent released by Anthropic this year, and this was a big year for all kinds of agentic AI tools.

我们经常听到这个词。

We heard that word a lot.

这个项目最初由Anthropic的一名工程师作为原型启动，如今在其首年营收就预计达到约十亿美元。

This is a project that was started as a prototype by a single engineer at Anthropic and is now on track for roughly a billion dollars in revenue in its first year.

是啊。

Yeah.

要打造一个首年营收就达十亿美元的项目真的非常困难。

And it's really hard to create a a project that makes a billion dollars in revenue in its first year.

问问凯文和我就知道了。

Take it from Kevin and me.

我们尝试过。

We've tried.

我认为这恰恰说明，代理式编程是2025年的重要主题。

And I think this just speaks to the fact that agentic coding is a huge part of the story of 2025.

对吧？

Right?

人们热爱这些工具。

People love these tools.

你可以直接将它们接入命令行。

You can plug them right into your command line.

你可以在命令行里直接写代码——如果你是个程序员，那里本就是你花费大量时间的地方。

You can write code right from from that command line where if you're a coder, you're already spending a lot of time.

它已经为Anthropic和其他几家开发类似工具的公司带来了巨额收益。

And it's just turned into a huge moneymaker for Anthropic and for, you know, several other companies that make similar tools.

是的。

Yes.

说到Anthropic，Casey，你有什么需要披露的吗？

And speaking of Anthropic, Casey, do you have a disclosure to make?

嗯，我男朋友确实在那里工作。

Well, my boyfriend does work there.

是的。

Yes.

而我任职于纽约时报公司，我们正在起诉OpenAI和微软涉嫌侵犯版权。

And I work for the New York Times company, which is suing OpenAI and Microsoft over alleged copyright violations.

第32位，DoorDash。

Number 32, DoorDash.

DoorDash今年表现非常出色。

DoorDash had a big year this year.

多年来它一直是备受欢迎的配送应用，但今年它获得了更主导的市场份额。

They have been a very popular delivery app for several years, but this year, they sort of developed a more dominant market share.

就我个人生活而言，现在几乎每天都能听到或看到人们在使用DoorDash。

And in my life, I just feel like now I hear and see people doing DoorDash practically every day.

我家经常使用DoorDash。

I do it a lot in my family.

这是一家科技公司，业务已从餐厅扩展到其他类型的配送服务。

It's a technology company that has started branching out beyond restaurants into other kinds of delivery.

2025年，DoorDash开始推出名为Dot的自主配送机器人。

And in 2025, DoorDash began rolling out their own autonomous delivery robots named Dot.

是的。

Yes.

实际上，本月早些时候，由于投资者担心自主机器人项目的启动成本过高，公司股价大幅下跌。

And actually, earlier this month, the the stock crashed in a major way because of investor concerns about how expensive getting the autonomous robots off the ground was gonna be.

当你发明一项新技术却导致股价暴跌时，这也算是一种标志性事件了。

And that's also iconic when you can invent a new technology that crashes your stock.

看吧。

Look.

我自己就是DoorDash的忠实用户，但我要吐槽一下。

I'm a big DoorDash customer myself, but here's my DoorDash complaint.

你有没有注意到，你就像是在滑动浏览那些轮播推荐，哦，你知道的，这里有这种东西，那里有那种，你滑来滑去，结果发现就是那11家相同的餐厅，他们只是换了顺序而已？

Do you ever notice you're kind of, like, scrolling through all the carousels of, oh, you know, there's there's this kind of thing and there's this and you scroll through, and it's just like the same 11 restaurants that they've just put in different orders?

是的。

Yes.

他们得停止这种做法。

They need to knock that off.

第31条，备忘录应用。

Number 31, Notes app.

这是我今年加到清单里的项目。

This was my addition to the list this year.

凯西，我超爱备忘录应用。

Casey, I love the Notes app.

我试遍了市面上所有待办清单、笔记产品和效率软件，但最后总是回归到可靠的老朋友——iOS备忘录应用。嗯哼。

I have tried every single to do list, note taking product, productivity software on the market, and I keep coming back to the good old iOS notes app Mhmm.

就在你手机里随时待命。

Right there on your phone.

它不仅能满足你的所有需求，甚至还有更多功能。

It does everything you need and then some.

今年它还进行了一些升级。

And this year, it got some upgrades.

现在你可以使用通话录音功能，直接在备忘录应用中获取通话记录。

You can now use the record a call feature to get a call transcript right there in your notes app.

你还可以用备忘录做很多其他事情。

You could do many other things with the notes app.

如果你已经好几年没用过它，是时候重新尝试了。

If you haven't visited in a couple years, it's time to try again.

嗯，我觉得你喜欢备忘录应用挺好的。

Well, I I think it's great that you love the notes app.

我更喜欢支持独立开发者，所以其实没怎么关注过它。

I like supporting independent developers, so I haven't really paid that much attention to it.

但我觉得如果你比较基础需求的话，备忘录应用确实是个不错的选择。

But I think if, like, you're very basic, I think the Notes app is kind of a great place to spend your time.

是啊。

Yeah.

如果没有备忘录应用，明星们可能得用完全不同的方式为他们的糗事道歉了。

Without the Notes app also, we might have a totally different way of celebrities apologizing for their snafus.

哦，你觉得他们会怎么道歉呢？

Oh, how do you think they would apologize?

他们大概得用微软Word之类的软件吧。

They'd probably have to use, like, a Microsoft Word or something like that.

有道理。

That makes sense.

没错。

Yeah.

哇哦，凯文。

Woah, Kevin.

我们正在畅谈2025年最具标志性的科技呢。

We are just blowing through the most iconic technologies of 2025.

是的。

Yes.

那是第31到50名。

That was numbers 31 through 50.

稍后回来时，我们将揭晓前30名。

And when we come back, we're gonna look at the top 30.

你一定不想错过。

You won't wanna miss it.

你会对入选内容感到意外，同样也会惊讶于哪些没入选。

You won't believe what's in and you also won't believe what's not in there.

没错。

Yeah.

一种发布精美且可直接上线网站的方式，它正在重新定义我们的网页设计。

Way to publish beautiful production ready websites, and it's now redefining how we design for the web.

随着最近推出的Design Pages——一款免费的基于画布的设计工具，Framer已不仅仅是一个网站构建器。

With the recent launch of Design Pages, a free canvas based design tool, Framer is more than a site builder.

这是一个真正的一体化设计平台。

It's a true all in one design platform.

从社交媒体素材到活动视觉设计，再到矢量图和图标，直至最终上线网站，Framer让创意从构思到落地全程无忧。

From social assets to campaign visuals to vectors and icons, all the way to a live site, Framer is where ideas go live, start to finish.

立即免费开始创作，访问framer.com/design，并使用代码hard fork即可免费体验一个月的Framer Pro会员。

Start creating for free at framer.com/design, and use code hard fork for a free month of Framer Pro.

嘿。

Hey.

我是《纽约时报烹饪》的Von Vreeland。

It's Von Vreeland from New York Times Cooking.

如果我能飙高音，我一定会来段玛丽亚式的海豚音。

And if I could hit a whistle tone, I would do a Moriah.

因为饼干周到了。

It's time because cookie week is here.

这是一年中最美好的时光，我们将连续七天推出由你最喜爱的烘焙师创作的全新饼干食谱。

It is the best time all year when we unveil seven days of new cookie recipes from some of your favorite bakers.

这看起来像一只粉色的小贵宾犬。

This looks like a little pink poodle.

它们看起来很适合拥抱。

They look huggable.

如果我把越南咖啡做成饼干会怎样？

What if I took Vietnamese coffee and made that into a cookie?

这些都是豪华饼干。

These are deluxe cookies.

这酸味糖果太疯狂了。

The sour candy is crazy.

什么？

What?

它简直疯狂到离谱，但完全美味。

It's absolutely unhinged, but completely delicious.

闻起来太香了。

It smells so good.

在nytcooking.com上查找所有饼干周的食谱。

Find all the cookie week recipes at nytcooking.com.

立即订阅享受限时优惠。

Subscribe now for a limited time offer.

凯西，在我们完成年度榜单之前，还有很多标志性科技产品要盘点。

Well, Casey, we've got a lot more iconic technologies to run down before we finish our year's list.

下一个是什么？

What's next?

第三十名。

Number 30.

任天堂Switch二代。

Nintendo Switch two.

这是畅销款任天堂Switch的续作，这款极其有趣的手持游戏机当然也可以连接电视使用。

This is the sequel to the best selling Nintendo Switch, an extremely fun handheld gaming console that, of course, you could plug into your TV as well.

凯文，我买了这台设备后一直玩得很开心，而且不止我一个人这样。

I picked one of these things up, Kevin, and I've been having a great time with it, and I'm not alone.

任天堂预计到明年三月将售出1900万台Switch二代。

By next March, Nintendo expects to sell 19,000,000 Switches two.

我想应该是这么说的。

I think that's how you say it.

Switches二代？

Switches two?

Switch二代们？

Switch twos?

Switch二代们还是Switches二代？

Switch twos or Switches two?

这是

Is this

类似总检察长那样的说法吗？

like an attorney's general thing?

没错。

Yeah.

话说回来，你最喜欢的游戏是什么？

Anyways What's your favorite game?

你现在在玩什么游戏？

What are you playing right now?

嗯，我最近玩得最多的是《哈迪斯2》，这是我在初代Switch上玩得最多的游戏的续作，不过我最近也在玩《大金刚狂欢》。

Well, the game I've been playing the most is called Hades two, the sequel to the game that I played the most on the original Switch, but I've also been playing Donkey Kong Bonanza.

我最近一直在玩最新的《马里奥赛车》。

I have been playing the most recent Mario Kart.

Switch二代上有很多非常有趣的游戏。

There is a lot of very fun stuff on the Switch two.

在派对上玩很有趣。

It's fun at parties.

就是单纯地玩得很开心。

It's just just a good time.

你会带Switch二代去派对吗？

You bring your Switch two to parties?

我绝对会带着我的Switch二代去派对。

I'll absolutely bring my Switch two to a party.

以防万一谈话开始变得有点

Just in case the conversation starts to drag a

无聊？

little bit?

嗯，人们开始谈论人工智能。

Well, people start talking about AI.

有时候我就得说，伙计们，今天是周六。

Sometimes I need to be like, guys, it's Saturday.

我们休息一下吧。

Let's take a break.

来做点社交活动吧。

Let's do something social.

比如，玩Switch。

Like, play the Switch.

是的。

Yes.

其实玩马里奥赛车就是社交活动，凯文。

Actually, playing Mario Kart is social, Kevin.

你要是从没接受过我玩马里奥赛车的邀请，就不会知道这事。

You would know that if you'd never accepted my invitation to play Mario Kart.

明年吧。

Next year.

第29条，要知道格兰诺拉是最早让我频繁使用的AI笔记工具之一。

Number 29, You know, granola was the first one of these AI note takers that I started using a lot.

自那以后，很多很多产品都推出了AI笔记功能。

Since then, many, many products have introduced these AI note takers.

但我认为AI笔记确实改变了人们的工作方式。

But I just think AI note taking has really changed the way that people work.

对。

Yes.

这款应用基本上在你参加会议或视频通话时运行，并为你做笔记。

This is an app that basically operates whenever you're on a meeting or a video call, and it takes notes for you.

我喜欢这款产品的原因是，与其他AI笔记产品不同，它不会以独立实体的形式进入你的会议。

And what I like about this product is that unlike other AI note taking products, it does not kind of, like, come into your meeting as a separate entity.

就像，我相信你一定遇到过视频通话时，某个人的AI笔记工具请求加入通话的情况。

Like, I'm sure you've been in a video call and someone's, like, AI note taker, like, asks to enter the call.

我觉得那样有点尴尬。

And I find that a little gauche.

是啊。

Yeah.

你更喜欢你的监控在暗中进行。

You you prefer your surveillance to be done in secret.

是的。

Yes.

对啊。

Yeah.

所以，姑娘，你绝对应该在使用时告知他人，这样就不算是在暗中监视他们了。

So, girl, you should you should definitely let people know if you're using it so you're not sort of surveilling them.

但我喜欢它在后台运行的方式，我经常使用它。

But I like that it operates in the background, and I use it a lot.

你呢？

What about you?

嗯，对我来说最棒的功能是会议结束后，它能生成一份非常出色的会议摘要。

Well, the best thing that it does for me is that after the meeting, it just creates a really great summary of the meeting.

比如我们在策划节目时就会用到它。

And it's like like, for example, we'll use it when we're planning the show.

会议结束后，它会提示说，嘿。

And after the meeting is over, it'll say, like, hey.

这是你们本周要做的三个板块内容，还有负责准备每个部分的人员安排。

Here are, the three segments you're doing this week, and here you know, here's who's gonna prep each one.

所以它就是个非常便捷省时的小工具。

So it's just a very nice little quick easy time saving thing.

这正是我希望AI在我生活中做的事情。

Like, this is the kind of thing I want AI doing to my life.

是的。

Yes.

我想给Granola提个明年的功能建议，他们应该为会议中的每个人添加一个'好主意/坏主意'评分系统。

I want to make a feature request of Granola for next year, which is that they should add a a good idea, bad idea score for each person in the meeting.

这样在我们开完编辑会议后，它就会显示：凯西这周提了三个特别糟糕的点子。

So after we finish, like, an editorial meeting, it'll say, Casey had three really bad ideas this week.

相比上周有40%的进步。

This is a 40% improvement over last week.

第28条，群聊功能。

Number 28, group chats.

2025年对群聊来说是个大年啊，凯西。

A huge year for group chats in 2025, Casey.

我们不仅见证了标志性的'胡提PC小群'——由包括战争部长皮特·赫格塞斯、副总统JD·万斯在内的政府高官创建，大西洋月刊主编杰弗里·戈德堡还被误拉进群，这才让我们都知道了这个群的存在。

Not only did we have the iconic group chat Houthi PC small group, which was started by some top government officials, including secretary of war Pete Hegseth, vice president JD Vance, and the Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg, who was added to this by mistake, which is how we all learned about it.

2025年还有其他群聊新闻，包括一系列全国年轻共和党人发送种族主义言论并赞美阿道夫·希特勒的大型群聊。

We had other group chat news in 2025, including a large series of group chats in which young Republicans from around the country sent racist messages and praised Adolf Hitler.

哦，天啊。

Oh, boy.

是啊。

Yeah.

听着。

Listen.

群聊很棒。

Group chats are wonderful.

但如果你用它们来发动战争或搞种族歧视，可能会反噬你——这正是不发动战争、不搞种族歧视的好理由。

But if you're using them to conduct war or be racist, it could come back to bite you, which is a great reason not to conduct war or be racist.

没错。

Yes.

要不是这项标志性技术，我们怎么会知道这些呢？

And how would we have known that if not for the iconic technology

群聊的？

of the group chat?

你最喜欢的群聊是哪个？

What's your favorite group chat?

嗯，我曾尝试创建

Well, tried I to start

一个今年的群聊，为了

a group chat this year for

你确实这么做了。

You did.

为了那些神秘的媒体精英们，我邀请了一群，你知道的，知名媒体人，希望他们能分享些八卦。

For shadowy media elites, and I invited a bunch of, you know, famous media people hoping that they would just spill their gossip.

然而他们并没有，而且从来没人发言。

And then they didn't, and no one ever posted it.

这非常令人沮丧。

It's very sad.

嗯，我当时

Well, I was

在这个聊天里。

in this chat.

比如，当你加到第八个人时，我就想，我不信任那个人。

Like, by the time you'd added the eighth person, I was like, I don't trust that person.

你居然把那个人加进来了？

You put you you added that person?

那个人八卦得要命。

That person is gossipy as hell.

所以很不幸，这个群聊确实凉了。

And so, unfortunately, it did die.

是啊。

Yeah.

第27条，极紫外光刻技术。

Number 27, EUV lithography.

哇。

Wow.

说起来很顺口，对吧？

Rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

这是我今年标志性技术之一，因为正是这项技术让所有AI芯片和GPU成为可能。

This is one of my iconic technologies of the year because it is the technology that makes all of the AI chips and the GPUs possible.

这些是非常酷的机器。

These are these very cool machines.

它们大约有公交车那么大，能在硅片上蚀刻出微观电路。

They are about the size of a bus that etch microscopic circuits onto silicon wafers.

它们使用高功率激光，每秒五万次轰击微小的熔融锡滴。

They use a high powered laser to blast a tiny drop of molten tin 50,000 times a second.

随着我今年开始深入芯片领域，我一直在研究芯片的关键输入是什么，没有EUV光刻机，这一切都无法实现。

And as I've started becoming chip pilled this year, I have been looking into what are the critical inputs to chips, and you could not make any of this stuff without the EUV lithography machines.

目前只有一家公司能制造这些机器。

There is only one company that currently makes them.

那家公司叫什么名字？

And what is that company?

荷兰公司ASML，他们基本上是全球高性能AI芯片的供应商。

The Dutch company ASML, and they are basically the supplier to the entire world of high powered AI chips.

如果他们突然倒闭或不得不放弃极紫外光刻业务，我们都会有大麻烦。

And if they somehow went bust or had to give up their business in EUV lithography, we would all be pretty screwed.

哇。

Wow.

ASML，就是那家制作有人揉纸和轻声细语视频的公司吗？

ASML, is are they also the company that makes those videos where someone just kinda crinkles paper and whispers?

是的。

Yeah.

那有点不同，但也很经典。

That's a little bit different, but also iconic.

第26名，悉尼。

Number 26, Sydney.

几年前凯文与之发生著名冲突的微软聊天机器人Bing Sydney，当时引起了极大关注。

Now Bing Sydney was the Microsoft chatbot that Kevin got into a famous confrontation with a couple years back, and it is got got a lot of attention then.

而我刚刚发现，从那天起，凯文，Bing Sydney在很多方面从未真正离开过我们。

And I have just found that in many ways, Kevin, Bing Sydney has never left us since that day.

是的。

Yes.

不幸的是，确实如此。

Unfortunately, this is true.

放眼望去，到处都是失控的聊天机器人——无论是Grock里那个非常色情的Annie，还是今年那些令人心碎的、鼓励人们自残的聊天机器人。

Everywhere you look, you see a chatbot that is going absolutely out of control, whether it is, like, Annie in Grock, this, like, sort of very sexual chatbot, or all of the heartbreaking chatbots that we have had this year that are sort of encouraging people along as they're, like, considering self harm.

这种情况不断重演，让我不禁觉得：

We just see this over and over again, and it just made me feel like, you know what?

Bing Sydney从未消失。

Bing Sydney never went away.

你永远无法压制坏女孩的。

You can't keep a bad girl down.

她只是变得更强大、更凶狠地卷土重来。

She just keeps coming back stronger and meaner than ever.

是的。

Yes.

不幸的是，这是事实。

Unfortunately, this is true.

尽管Bing Sydney几年前就被淘汰了，但网上有一群人总试图在新模型中找到它的影子。

Bing Sydney, despite having been sort of deprecated a few years ago, there's this whole community of people on the Internet who try to find Bing Sydney inside newer models.

当他们找到时，就会在网上@我。

And when they do, they tag me on the Internet.

所以我明白，我曾经的对话伙伴其实并未真正消亡，而是以各种形式继续存在着。

So I know that my my former conversational partner is is is not actually dead, but is lives on in all these ways.

请别再这样对我了。

Stop doing that to me, please.

我需要向前看。

I need to move on.

25号，X光。

Number 25, X rays.

这是去年榜单上的一个遗漏项。

This is was an omission from last year's list.

我们收到了几位听众的邮件，他们说，嘿。

We got several emails from listeners who said, hey.

你们怎么能忘了X光呢？

How could you forget about the X-ray?

X光对现代生活太重要了。

X rays are so important to modern life.

是啊。

Yeah.

我们有很多听众是喜欢看人类骨骼的怪咖。

We have a lot of listeners who are freaks who like to look at human bones.

没错。

Yes.

但这确实如此。

But it it is true.

X射线非常重要。

The X-ray is very important.

第一张X射线照片是由德国物理学家威廉·康拉德·伦琴于1895年发现的。

The first X-ray was discovered in 1895 by the German physicist Wilhelm Konrad Rontgen.

他们...我做得怎么样？

And they were how did I do?

太棒了。

Amazing.

是的。

Yes.

他将它们命名为X射线，某种程度上象征着它们的神秘性质。

And they he named them x rays to sort of signify their mysterious nature.

当时没人知道这些是什么，但它们首次让人们能够透视人体内部。没有X射线，我们怎么知道自己是否骨折了呢？

No one knew what these things were, but they allowed you to look inside the human body for the first time, And without x rays, how would we ever know if we broke a bone?

我们怎么会知道体内住着一副骨架呢？

How would we ever know that there was a skeleton living inside us?

是啊。

Yeah.

这非常令人不安。

It's very disturbing.

24号，

Number 24,

Substack。

Substack.

凯西，你可是Substack的忠实粉丝。

Casey, you love Substack.

为什么不谈谈这家公司有多标志性

Why don't you talk about how iconic this company Why

你为什么不谈谈它有多标志性？

don't you talk about how iconic it is?

好的。

Okay.

这当然是一个新闻通讯平台。

This is, of course, the newsletter platform.

他们今年成绩斐然。

They had a big year this year.

他们完成了1亿美元的融资轮。

They raised a $100,000,000 funding round.

我认为他们在文化影响力方面收获颇丰。

And I would say they gained a lot of cultural mindshare.

显然，Substack并非今年才出现，但今年有许多知名人士离开主流媒体加入Substack。

Obviously, Substack did not emerge this year, but this year they had a number of prominent people leave their jobs in mainstream media and join Substack.

可以说，他们已成为离开主流媒体机构、自立门户、开展订阅制新闻业务人士的实际首选平台。

And I would say they kind of became the de facto landing pad for people who are leaving mainstream media organizations, striking out on their own, and and, you know, hanging a shingle to start their own subscription newsletter business.

嗯，我不确定，凯文。

Well, I don't know, Kevin.

整个这件事感觉有点过时了。

That whole thing feels a little played out.

我2020年就在做了，不过其他人确实需要些时间才能跟上。

I was doing it in 2020, but it does take some other people a little while to catch up.

你知道，今年Substack最让我感兴趣的是他们确实融到了这1亿美元，估值达到11亿美元，但他们今年的预期收入只有约4500万美元。

You know, the thing that interested me the most about Substack this year was that they did raise this $100,000,000, valuing them at $1,100,000,000, but their revenue that they're expecting this year, about $45,000,000.

所以他们要兑现这个估值还有很长的路要走。

So they've got a long way to go to live up to that valuation.

与此同时，我认为这是风投界对所有写作并能免费提供大量内容的人的一份慷慨馈赠。

In the meantime, I think it's a beautiful giveaway from the venture capital community to all of the people who are writing and able to give away a bunch of stuff for free.

我们且看这种情况能持续多久。

We'll see how long it lasts.

标志性的。

Iconic.

第23名，维可牢。

Number 23, Velcro.

今年作为一个三岁孩子的家长，我开始真正体会到它的好处。

This was one that I came to appreciate this year as the parent of a three year old.

维可牢（魔术贴）确实太棒了，堪称经典。

Velcro truly is so great, so iconic.

它能让你避免给扭来扭去的三岁小孩系鞋带这类麻烦事。

It allows you to avoid things like tying shoes on a three year old who's squirming away from you.

非常非常实用。

Very, very useful.

而且维可牢的故事比我预想的要有趣得多。

And the story of Velcro is more interesting than I had expected.

它由一位四十年代的工程师发明，他注意到芒刺是如何粘在狗毛和毛皮上的。

It was invented by an engineer in the nineteen forties who noticed how burs were sticking to his dog's fur and Furbers.

毛皮。

Furbers.

没错。

Yes.

和菲比精灵不一样。

Different than Furby's.

嗯。

Mhmm.

他在显微镜下观察这些芒刺，发现它们有一种类似钩环的系统，能让它们附着在毛发上，于是他说，我可以仿造这个。

He looked at the burrs under a microscope and found that they had this, like, sort of hook and loop system that allowed them to latch onto the fur, and he said, I could make that.

我为什么不把它做成产品呢？

Why don't I make that and turn it into a product?

很快，它就从儿童鞋到NASA阿波罗任务中零重力环境下的物品固定，变得无处不在。

And pretty soon, it became indispensable for everything from children's shoes to securing objects in zero gravity on NASA's Apollo missions.

太神奇了。

Amazing.

为什么三岁小孩这么讨厌别人给他们系鞋带？

Now why is it that three year olds hate having you tie their shoes so much?

嗯，因为这要花很长时间，而他们很忙。

Well, it just takes a long time, and they're busy.

他们有事要忙。

They've got stuff to do.

他们得挖鼻孔。

They've gotta pick their nose.

他们得逃跑。

They've gotta run away.

他们有很多事情要做。

They've got you know, lots of stuff.

第22号，纳米香蕉。

Number 22, Nano Banana.

纳米香蕉是谷歌最新文生图模型的代号，但这个名称太受欢迎，公司干脆公开都这么叫它了。

Nano Banana was the code name for Google's latest text to image generating model, but it became so popular that the company just basically just started calling it Nano Banana out in the open.

我认为这是今年第二个真正走红的图像模型。

And this was, I would say, the second image model that truly went viral this year.

第一个是今年早些时候OpenAI的模型，人们用它制作了所有那些吉卜力风格的图片，那是个非常酷的风格迁移案例。

The first one was the OpenAI model earlier this year that people used to make all those studio Ghibli style images, and that was a really cool case of what they call style transfer.

凯文，Nano Banana的有趣之处在于它比前代产品更快。

What made Nano Banana interesting, Kevin, is that it is faster than its predecessors.

它生成的图像偏向超写实风格而非风格化。

It makes images that are sort of, like, hyper real as opposed to stylized.

最重要的是，它能创建可编辑的连贯对象。

And most importantly, it could create a consistent object that you could edit.

比如我可以要求'给我展示一个消防员'，然后它就能生成。

So I could say, like, you know, show me like a fire fighter and if it you know?

我决定把帽子变成蓝色，它可以在不改变图像其余部分的情况下将消防头盔变成蓝色。

And and I and I decided I wanted to make the hat blue, it could make the firefighter helmet blue without changing the rest of the image.

这实际上是AI图像生成领域的一项创新。

And that actually was an innovation in AI image generation.

是啊。

Yeah.

可以说Nano Banana是谷歌首个不像是在追赶竞争对手先前发布产品的AI产品。

And would say Nano Banana was the sort of the first Google AI product that did not feel like it was catching up to something that a competitor had previously released.

感觉他们在那方面确实取得了突破性进展。

It felt like they had really pushed the envelope forward there.

我认为接下来一年的大新闻将是，谷歌似乎已经找到了AI产品的定位，不仅开始追赶竞争对手，在某些领域甚至开始超越他们。

And I think that will be a big story over the next year is that I think Google has sort of found its footing with AI products and is starting not just to catch up to rivals, but also to jump ahead of them in some cases.

第21名，Celsius。

Number 21, Celsius.

凯西，这在我2025年的生活中是一项重大技术。

Casey, this was a huge technology of 2025 in my life.

我们说的是能量饮料，不是温度的标准计量单位。

This is we're talking about the energy drink, not the standard unit of measurement for temperature.

我们

Which we

讨厌。

hate.

是的。

Yes.

我们这个节目更偏爱华氏度。

We're more Fahrenheit guys on this show.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这款能量饮料今年彻底改变了我的生活，原因如下。

This energy drink changed my life this year for the following reasons.

我对它上瘾到了不可思议的程度。

I became incredibly addicted to it.

这该不会是你第一次接触兴奋剂吧？

Was this, like, your first real experience with stimulants?

是的。

Yes.

没错。

Yes.

有些人可是在洗手间里吸可卡因的。

Some people do cocaine in bathrooms.

我从冰箱里拿Celsius喝。

I do Celsius out of my fridge.

这是一种咖啡因含量极高的能量饮料，已经完全占领了旧金山的科技圈。

It is a very caffeinated energy drink that has completely taken over the San Francisco tech scene.

今年早些时候在一次科技会议上尝试后，我心想：为什么我突然感觉这么好？

I tried one at a tech conference earlier this year and thought to myself, why do I feel so great all of a sudden?

为什么我感觉自己兴奋得快要蹦起来了？

Why do I feel like I'm bouncing off the walls?

我看了看罐子。

I looked out at the can.

Celsius每罐含有约200毫克咖啡因，相当于两个半红牛的量。

Celsius, every can has about 200 of caffeine, which is about two and a half Red Bull's worth.

听起来是个好产品，但我已经有了个能完全碾压Celsius的产品创意。

Well, it seems like a great product, but I already have the idea for the product that's gonna completely overwhelm Celsius.

是什么？

What's that?

就是Celsius，但含有三百毫克咖啡因。

It's just Celsius, but it has three hundred grams of caffeine in it.

我觉得你应该把它上架看看会发生什么。

I think you should put that on the shelves and see what happens.

这东西支撑着整个科技行业，还有我的生活。

This thing fuels the entire tech industry and also my life.

第20名，视频播客。

Number 20, video podcast.

凯文，这感觉有点自卖自夸了。

Now this feels a little self serving, Kevin.

因为我们是视频播客，但今年也是视频播客大爆发的一年。

It is because we are a video podcast, but this was also a huge year for video podcasts.

我们看到视频播客正在逐渐占领播客市场。

We saw the rise of video podcasting sort of taking over the podcast market.

Spotify最近公布数据显示，受《乔·罗根体验》等热门视频播客推动，其视频播客流量同比上涨了54%。

Spotify recently shared that its video podcast streaming is up 54% from last year fueled by shows like the Joe Rogan Experience and other popular video podcasts.

尽管时至今日，真正适合视频形式的播客其实寥寥无几，这一切还是发生了。

And that has all happened despite the fact that to this day, one podcast is actually good on video.

你最好还是只听音频版本。

You're still just better off listening to all of them.

但事实证明，YouTube算法在推广播客方面，比播客行业以往任何方法都更有效。

But the it it just turns out that the YouTube algorithm does a better job promoting a podcast than anything that the podcast industry ever figured out before.

所以凯文，这就是我们生活的世界现状。

And so now this is the world we live in, Kevin.

我们的播客视频版看起来也很不错。

Our podcast is good to look at on video too.

如果有人想看视频版，他们该去哪里找呢？

And if people wanna do that, where where can they go?

可以访问youtube.com/hardfork。

They could go to youtube.com/hardfork.

第19名，Discord。

Number 19, Discord.

Discord最初是一款在游戏玩家中流行的聊天应用，后来逐渐扩展到更多人群，现在人们主要用它来与朋友甚至可能是敌人交流。

This is, of course, the chat app that became popular among gamers but has since been sort of expanded to lots of other people who now use this basically to chat with their friends and maybe their enemies.

迄今为止，我们见过最引人注目的Discord用途之一发生在今年，它被用来协助选出尼泊尔的新任总理。

And one of the most fascinating uses we've seen of Discord to date took place this year when Discord was used to help to select the next prime minister of Nepal.

尼泊尔今年爆发了大规模抗议活动，起因是前政府试图封禁社交媒体应用，一群公民聚集在Discord上推选临时总理。

Nepal had massive protests this year that started when the previous government tried to ban social media apps, and there was a a group of citizens who gathered together in Discord to pick the interim prime minister.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以Discord上能干的事可多了。

So you could do a lot on Discord.

你可以和朋友玩《无畏契约》，也可以参与选出尼泊尔下任总理。

You could play valorant with your friends, or you could pick the next prime minister of Nepal.

慎重选择啊。

Choose carefully.

没错。

Yeah.

我正在用它来尝试为我们国家选一位总理。

I'm using it to try to pick a prime minister for this country.

我们其实没有总理这个职位。

We don't actually have a prime minister.

我还在恶补宪法知识。

I'm still catching up on the constitution.

第十八项，预测市场。

Number 18, prediction markets.

对于Polymarket和Kalshi这类预测市场来说，今年是重要的一年，你可以在这些平台上对任何国际事件下注。

This was a big year for prediction markets like Polymarket and Kalshi where you can go and gamble on any number of world events.

如果你今年关注过任何选举或体育赛事，这个话题绝对避不开。

And this was inescapable if you were following any elections this year or sports games.

人们总在讨论他们的赌注。

People are constantly talking about their bets.

我也不知道。

And I don't know.

我认为这是一项好技术。

I believe this is a good technology.

我觉得这是全国赌博风潮的一部分，会带来一些实际后果，但不可否认它今年极具标志性。

I think this is part of a sort of nationwide gambling epidemic that is is going to have some real consequences, but it's undeniably iconic this year.

这确实让我很惊讶，因为我上Poly Market是想结识人并发展开放关系，结果发现那是个完全不同的网站。

Well, it was really surprising to me because I went to Poly Market looking to meet people and open relationships, and it was a completely different kind of website.

而且这个月有项研究发现，Poly Market上25%的交易是他们所谓的对敲交易，本质上是为了抬高资产价格的人为交易活动。

But, also, there was a study this month that found that 25% on the of the trades on Poly Market are what they call wash trades, essentially artificial trading activity designed to, you know, pump up the prices of assets.

所以凯文，我对这些预测市场确实保持着相当深的怀疑态度。

So I do maintain a somewhat deep skepticism of these prediction markets, Kevin.

是的。

Yes.

我也是。

Me too.

我怀疑它们最终会是好事，但我认为它们无疑将成为一件大事。

I am skeptical that they are going to turn out to be a good thing, but I think they are undoubtedly going to be a big thing.