与The Dice Tower同桌 - 重掷骰子

有些核心规则书看起来非常酷炫，艺术设计也很棒，但它们使用了那些花哨的字体。

There are some core books that look so cool and the art is so cool, but they do these, you know, stylized fonts.

我就想，我要读好多好多页才能理解内容。

And I'm like, I'm reading lots and lots of pages to get into this.

这对我个人来说是个障碍——看着精美的艺术设计，却读不懂文字。

That is a barrier for me personally when I'm looking at the pretty art, but I can't read the words.

就像

Like, to

当艺术书可以，但作为规则文档就不行。

get as an art book, but not as a rules document.

没错。

Correct.

所以不，你还是得面对这个问题。

So, no, you're still gonna have to do that.

而且，如果这确实是个障碍，那么确实，你能选择的非常有限。

And, yes, if that's a barrier, then, yeah, you're there's there's very few.

确实有，确实存在。

There are there are.

我想说的是，我手头有一些单人RPG的单次游戏示例可以给你参考，但这些并不一定是完全自主运行的。

And I will say I have some solo RPG one shots below in different examples that I can give you for a solo game, but not necessarily a self run.

我个人没有亲自尝试过，但我知道这类游戏是存在的。

I haven't done any personally, I know they exist.

我还没有任何相关经验。

I haven't had any experience with

我想主持这个游戏。

I wanna run the game.

我要去做了，我这就去。

I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

我要教大家怎么玩。

I'm gonna I'm gonna teach everybody.

没错。

Yeah.

除了游戏本身，我还应该准备些什么？

What what what should I be getting besides the game itself?

我需要买很多骰子、游戏屏风吗？

Do I need to buy lots of dice, a screen?

我有点困惑和害怕。

I'm I'm confused and afraid.

哦，不。

Oh, no.

好吧。

Alright.

嗯，你

Well, you

需要核心规则书。

need the core the core book.

作为游戏主持人(GM)，你需要该游戏的核心规则书。

You need the core book of any game as the game master GM.

你应该准备骰子，但如果你有电脑，网上有很多随机数生成器可以用。

You should have dice, but you if you have a computer, there are plenty of random number generators on the Internet.

实际上你并不一定需要骰子。

You don't actually need dice.

只不过掷骰子的感觉真的很爽。

It's just really satisfying to roll dice.

游戏规则会告诉你需要什么，然后你可以自行决定这笔开销。

So, you know, the game will tell you what you need, and and you can decide and make that financial decision for yourself.

除此之外，具体需求取决于游戏类型。

Other than that, it depends on the game.

而且我们是在线玩的。

And so we play online.

所以主持人不需要挡板。

So the RGM doesn't need a screen.

他们用的是在线骰子。

They use online dice.

他们需要那本书。

They need the book.

他们有网络。

They there's and the Internet.

我们实际需要的东西非常少。

There's very little else that we we actually need.

我们喜欢拥有所有配件，因为我们小组里都是些骰子小妖精。

We like having the all the accessories, and we because we're all little dice goblins in our group.

但从经济角度来说，我们确实不需要其他任何东西。

But it's genuinely, financially, not necessary for us to have any of the other things.

玩家不需要那本书，因为你不想在战役或体验中提前阅读。

The players don't need the book because you don't wanna be reading ahead in the campaign or the experience.

如果你在玩设定好的战役时提前知道剧情并偷看，会毁了所有人的体验。

If you're following a set campaign, that ruins it for everybody if you already know the story and read ahead when you're playing.

你应该自己体验这个过程。

You're supposed to be doing that yourself.

所以它可以非常简单基础，也可以极其精致复杂。

So it can be very, very basic, or it can be super elaborate.

我曾参与过一个地牢探险游戏，他们用——我又忘记那家公司名字了——的材料搭建了整整五层的地牢。

I've played a dungeon crawl where they built the entire five story dungeon from again, I always forget their name.

就是那家专门制作地牢组件的公司。

The company that builds.

他们总部在布鲁克林，每年都会参加Gen Con展会。

They're based out of Brooklyn, and they're at Gen Con every year.

他们专门制作地牢场景组件。

They build the dungeon pieces.

矮人族的五层地牢，每层之间都用隔板分开。

Dwarven A five story dungeon with boards in between each one that separated.

就像战争迷雾那样，你只能看到已探索的区域。我们每完成一层，就会掀起隔板——每层之间都有个大隔板——把当前层移到旁边，再往下一层地牢进发。

So, like, fog of war, you could only see what they had uncovered, and we went and every time we finished one, we would lift up the next, like, there was a big board in between each one and move that dungeon off to the side and go down one level to the next dungeon.

那体验超级酷炫，当然也贵得离谱，对我来说堪称一生一次的珍贵经历。

That was super cool and incredibly expensive and a once in a for me, a once in a lifetime experience.

我认识的人里没几个能有这种体验。

I don't know many people who could have that.

那真是太棒了。

It was great.

这完全没必要。

It's completely unnecessary.

超级有趣，但非常没必要。

Super fun, but very unnecessary.

对大多数游戏来说，你只需要一本核心规则书和互联网就能玩。

You can play with a core book and the Internet if that's for most games.

而且很多这类游戏就只有这些内容。

And for a lot of these games, that's all that there is.

那些小型出版社的游戏往往就只有一本核心规则书。

There's the, like, the smaller press games that's just a core rule book.

不像有些游戏还有怪物图鉴、法术指南之类的配套书。

It's not like there's a monster manual and a, you know Or spell guide and all.

对。

Right.

你可以去Drive Through RPG这样的网站，下载PDF版本，通常比实体书更便宜。

You wanna go to, like, drive through RPG, and you can get the downloaded PDF, which is less expensive typically than a physical copy of the book.

所以如果你想更省钱，大多数情况下我都会首选Drive Through RPG这类平台，当然还有其他很多选择。

So even at that, if you wanna be even more cost effective, you can go and usually most of the time on anything like any of this, drive through RPG is kind of my go to, but there's a bunch of them.

而且大多数平台会提供试读样本，让你在购买前可以先浏览和阅读。

And most of them will give you a sample so you can take a look and read through it first before you and decide before you purchase it.

一旦购买后，PDF文件你可以根据需要打印出来，或者就保存在电脑上。

Once you have it, it's a PDF for your you know, that you can print out if you need to or just have it on your computer.

这样玩RPG可以很省钱。

So you can do RPG cost effectively.

大多数人会沉迷于收集骰子之类的。

Most people, you know, get into the, like, the dice.

我差不多什么都有。

I have an like, everything.

太多了。

Too many.

我很享受这一点，但我喜欢掷骰子的触感体验。

And I enjoy that, but I like the tactile experience of rolling dice.

这对我来说很重要。

It's for me.

而且，你知道，我在家工作时会玩指尖陀螺之类的东西。

And, you know, I have fidget spinners at home when I'm working and things.

我需要那种触感体验。

I need I need the tactile experience.

这就是我。

That's that's me.

所以至少需要一些骰子是必须的，但我们组里有人完全只用电脑掷骰功能，按个按钮就行。

So having the dice, at least some dice is a requirement, but there are people in my group that literally just use the computer dice rolls and just press a button.

根据我的经验，我要说我是那种...哦，就是Facebook上那种人。

I will say that from from my experience, I I'm someone who's like, oh, that Facebook.

我打算构建一个完整的世界和所有内容。

I'm gonna build a whole world and everything.

然后你开始着手去做。

And then you you start doing it.

你会发现这是项巨大的工程，那些公司制作的预制冒险模组其实很不错。

You find that it's a tremendous amount of work that these prepackaged adventures that companies make are not a bad thing.

不。

No.

它们确实非常方便，即便你完全可以自由偏离剧本，但它们提供了一个非常坚实的框架。

They're really, really handy, and they give you even if you you can obviously deviate from the script all you want, but they give you a really strong framework.

如果有人问'哦，这里有家旅馆'。

And if someone says, oh, there's an inn.

旅馆老板叫什么名字？

What's the innkeeper's name?

你就不必临时编造'什马卡巴卡'这样的名字了。

You're not having to go, Shmakabaka.

你知道的，那些内容就在那里，它们会提供背景故事。

You know, you can you know, that stuff is there, and they'll give you backstory.

我决定完全借用Shmacca Bacca这个名字。

I'm And I found that Totally stealing Shmacca Bacca.

市面上有很多很酷的资源是系统无关的，比如我在Gen Con买的一个，里面就提供了大量地点信息。

There's a lot of cool resources out there that are, system agnostic that like, I bought one at Gen Con that just gives a bunch of locations.

我有专门针对地牢和旅馆的各一本。

I had one for dungeons and one for inns.

是的。

Yeah.

然后你可以把这些内容随意插入到任何你想要的战役中。

Across, and then you can just stick these in any campaign you want.

我有一本叫《面具》的书，每一页都是一个角色。

I have a a book called masks, which is every page is a character.

所以如果你需要角色，只需随便翻一页就能找到，就像这样。

So if you want a character, you can just, like, flip open and be like, alright.

这样你就有了一个完整丰满的角色，而且你可以随意修改这些内容。

And you have a fully fleshed out character, and, again, you can modify this stuff all you want.

完全同意。

Absolutely.

但有时候我需要一些指引。

But sometimes I I need a bit of a guide.

完全同意。

Absolutely.

确实如此。

That is yep.

再说一次，如果你是新手，而且所有人都是新手，那么游戏主持人也是新手。

And they again, if you're new and everybody's new, then the GM is new.

如果游戏主持人更有经验，他也可以轻松地说'给你一个角色'。

If the GM is more experienced, a GM can also very easily be like, here's a character.

这里有个基础模板，可以很快给你提供些东西。

Here's a baseline and and and give you something, pretty quickly as well.

那么，你对那些大型游戏有什么看法？

Well, what is your opinion of the the big ones?

我们有D&D作为有史以来最大的角色扮演游戏，可能紧随其后的是《开拓者》。

So we have D and D as the biggest role playing game of all time and probably followed up by Pathfinder.

是的。

Yeah.

或者，《星球大战》也是个大型游戏。

Or, we got Star Wars as a big one.

那个疯狂主题的游戏叫什么来着？

What's the what's the madness one?

《克苏鲁的呼唤》。

Call of Cthulhu.

《克苏鲁的呼唤》。

Call of Cthulhu.

不是《克苏鲁的呼唤》，但那个游戏的目标是让每个玩家都死亡，叫什么名字？

Not call of well, there's Call of Cthulhu, but what's the one where everyone your your goal is to die.

到底是什么来着，不是死亡什么的，我忘了。

What has it been not die too I forget.

但这类游戏有很多，你知道的，那些恐怖类的。

But there's a lot of these, you know, those horror ones.

哦。

Oh.

你提到了很多独立游戏。

You mentioned a lot of indie ones.

那些大型游戏还行吗？

Are the big ones okay?

嗯。

Yeah.

呃，我的意思是，并不完全。

Well, I mean, not entirely.

我确实简单提到过《星球大战》。

I I did mention, Star Wars briefly.

我玩过，现在你说我玩过你刚才列举的所有游戏。

I've played and now you say that I've played everything you just listed.

我玩过所有这些游戏的战役模式，而且我非常享受每一个战役。

I've played a campaign of all of them, and I've enjoyed all of those campaigns immensely.

正如你刚才提到的原因，它们有设定好的场景和战役，让人们非常容易上手，可以根据需要提供或多或少的指导来搭建游戏。

And for kind of the reason you already said, they have set scenarios and campaigns that make it super easy for people to get into and can do as much hand holding or as little hand holding as you want to get something set up.

所以你可以进入一个有很多额外支持的故事线，不需要自己构思所有想法或世界观构建。

So you can get into a storyline with a lot of extra support that you don't have to generate all the ideas or the world building.

《星球大战》啊，你完全不需要做任何世界观构建。

Star Wars, man, you don't you absolutely don't need to get do any world building.

这个世界已经完成了，已经构建好了。

It's it's it's been the world's done, been built.

所以像这样的游戏，特别是《星球大战》，想想看，我一直在玩D&D。

So for things like that, it kinda makes and specifically Star Wars, thinking about it, I I've been playing D and D.

我以为我玩的是第一版D&D的第二次印刷版，那是我四年级时玩的游戏。

I have I thought it was I have the second printing or the second print through of the first edition D and D was my what I was playing on when I was in the fourth grade.

所以我这辈子断断续续都在玩D&D，现在我们玩的战役已经是第五版了。

So I've been playing D and D for off and on for my whole life, and we're on fifth edition now in the campaign that I play.

我虽然很喜欢它，但这并不代表——该怎么说呢——就像大多数人都喜欢龙，但它并非适合所有人。

And I love that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that say this, but, like, most people love dragons, but it's not for everybody.

所以《星球大战》是个很棒的替代选择，它拥有完整的系统和世界观，对大多数人来说都很容易上手。

So Star Wars is a great alternative type of thing where there's still a full system and world that is easily accessible for most people.

因此我认为这些都很棒，这也是你能找到更多有经验的玩家的途径之一。

So I think those are great, and that's part of the you how you can find more people to play those who have experience.

通常你可以在游戏商店里找到相关活动。

You can usually find stuff at game stores happening.

就易上手性而言，我绝对推荐以这个作为学习游戏的起点。

So for accessibility, absolutely, I would recommend that is a good starting point to just learn a game.

我现在要讲些更小众的机制问题了。

I'm getting more niche for mechanics purposes.

因为假设你不了解——比如你只玩过桌游，但完全没接触过任何角色扮演游戏的话。

The because if and if you don't know, let's say you've you're you play board games, but zero exposure to any kind of role playing game.

在D&D中，你主要使用一个20面骰子进行掷骰，1到20的数字决定了你在战斗中的行动顺序、攻击是否命中、是否被敌人击中、防御是否成功，或是执行其他动作的结果——这些都取决于游戏主持人的裁决。

D and D, you're mostly using a d 20 to roll, and so from one to 20 is your likelihood of what order you're gonna do combat in, whether or not you've successfully hit if you've if you're attacking somebody, whether you've hit them or not, whether somebody hits you, whether you've defended, if you're trying to do some sort of action, whether it's and that's all up to the GM.

可能简单到只是开门，或是说服别人'这些不是你们要找的机器人'，这种情况下你都需要掷一个20面骰。

It could be as simple as opening a door or persuading someone that these are not the droids they're looking for, that you would roll a d 20.

不过我要说明的是，星球大战有自己独特的骰子系统。

Now I say that, but Star Wars has their own dice system.

它完全不同。

It's different.

所以到了这一步，你只需要学习这套骰子系统即可。

But so it's at that point, it's just learning the dice system.

D&D这些年来已经简化了很多规则。

D and D has simplified a lot over the years.

《开拓者》系列也是如此。

Pathfinder's the same way.

星球大战虽然有自己的骰子系统，但你所提到的那些场景会循序渐进地教你如何使用它们。

Star Wars has their own dice system, but those scenarios that you talked about ease you into how to use them.

它们大多是图案，所以基本上就是成功、失败或部分成功来表示行动结果。

They're mostly pictures, and so they're mostly pass fail or partial success for what they're doing.

而且它们有，你知道的，反抗军同盟的标志和帝国的标志，设计得挺漂亮的。

And they have, you know, the the rebel alliance symbol and the the empire, and they're pretty.

所以是的。

So yeah.

所有这些都很不错，可能是个好的起点，但这些人更像是那种'我试过那些，但不喜欢，因为缺少这类机制'的玩家。

And all of that is good stuff and probably a good place to start, but these are more the people who are like, I've tried those, and I don't like it because it doesn't have this kind of mechanism.

这就是为什么我要选择更小众的。

Is why I'm going more niche.

对。

Yeah.

我们选其中一个吧。

Let's pick one of those.

比如说，我特别喜欢那种提供完整行动菜单，可以消耗行动点来执行操作的游戏。

Like, let's say I really like games that give me a whole menu of things to do, and I can spend my action points to do them.

让我在一回合可以做多个动作而不仅是一个。

Something that lets me do multiple things on a turn instead of just one action.

有没有这样的游戏？

Are there any games like that?

让我点数。

Let me points.

我喜欢花行动点数。

I like spending action points.

是的。

Yeah.

嗯，通常你花费行动点数来升级。

Well, so you spend action points often to level up.

所以《龙与地下城》依然是...如果你是因为想升级而玩的话，它是最典型的升级类游戏。

So D and D still is a is a if you're if it's if you're into it because you wanna level up, D and D is the quintessential leveling up kind of thing.

但如果你玩是因为你喜欢'我有这些选择，可以计算着来行动'的感觉。

But if you're doing it because you like, I have this I can do this many things, and I can calculate that out.

让我们看看。

There's let's see.

风水，听起来很舒缓。

Feng Shui, which sounds all soothing.

其实不是。

It's not.

是战斗。

It's combat.

很温馨。

Cozy.

你就像在动作电影里战斗，会获得一组镜头。

You are you're in an action movie, like, and you are fighting, so you get a pool of shots.

不是射击的镜头，是指电影摄影的镜头。

Not shots like shooting, shots like a movie camera shot.

哦。

Oh.

因为你在一部动作电影里。

Because you're in an action movie.

你正在拍摄一部动作电影。

You're filming an action movie.

没错。

Right.

所以你有一系列不同的动作可以拍摄，每个镜头都有计数，然后每个动作都有相应的成本。

So you have a and so different things that you can do have a shot count, and then everything has a cost.

所以你实际上是在规划如何在一个场景中打斗，通过场景进行喜剧表演，无论是什么，并消耗你的行动点来完成它。

And so you are mapping out literally how you are fighting through a scene, doing comedy through a scene, whatever it is, and spending your action points to do it.

所以这个游戏我认为如果你喜欢行动点、行动镜头那种行动选择，不是行动选择，而是行动池，对。

So that's one where I I generally think that if you like action point, action shot that action selection, not action selection, and action pool Yeah.

那会很好。

That would be good.

还有几个其他的。

And there are a couple others.

有什么我能想到的呢？

There's what what can I think of?

密特拉赋予你战斗与魔法行动的能力。

Mithras gives you combat and match magical actions.

CNS重生是一款更经典的RPG游戏，使用行动点来衡量角色每回合的行动。

CNS Rebirth is a classic more of a classic RPG game that uses action points to measure the character's actions per turn.

虽然没有那么具体或主题化，但在镜头拍摄的意义上是类似的。

Not nearly as specific or thematic, but in that sense of, like, a camera shot.

不过，是的，这些也使用了行动点机制。

But, yes, those also use action pulls.

好的。

Alright.

我现在要难倒你了。

I'm I'm trying to stump you now.

来看看我最喜欢的机制之一——拾取与交付。

Let I'm I'm looking at one of my favorite mechanisms, and that's pickup and deliver.

虽然我们上次开玩笑说每款游戏都能做成接送任务游戏。

Although we sort of joked last time that every game can be a pickup and deliver game.

是啊。

Yeah.

确实都可以，但如果你想要专门的接送任务游戏，奇怪的是我发现很多单人日志类游戏都采用这种机制。

They all can, but if you want something that's specific pickup delivery, these are this is the ones where I, weirdly I found a lot of solo journal.

如果你想先试试水，看看是否喜欢这种类型，有款游戏叫《信使》。

So if you wanna just test the waters and get, like, a and see if you like it, there's a game called Courier.

是款单人RPG。

It's a solo RPG.

单人接送任务的RPG？

A solo pickup and deliver RPG?

对。

Yeah.

好吧。

Okay.

在后启示录的世界里。

In the post apocalyptic world.

所以你接任务，送货任务，并记录这些经历。

So you're getting missions, delivery missions, and writing about it.

送达任务，同样如此。

So and delivered, same thing.

如果你想要更偏向角色扮演体验而非日志记录体验——后者正变得更流行，但对桌游玩家来说未必合适——可以试试《快递飞龙》。

If you want it more as a RPG experience and not a journal experience, which is becoming more popular, but not necessarily for a board game player, delivery dragons.

什么？

What?

是《快递飞龙》。

Is delivery dragons.

你们扮演龙，工作就是飞行和运送物品。

You are dragons, and your job is to fly and deliver things.

这是个一次性游戏，每次只需一个会话就能完成。

And it is a one shot, so it is played in just one session at a time.

你们将有一个任务，作为龙族要合作运送魔法物品。

You'll have one mission, and you're gonna be dragons trying to work together to deliver things, magical items.

哦，好吧。

So Oh, okay.

这就是我的...我搜寻了很久，这些是我能找到的最佳例子了。

That is my that is my there's not a lot that I I looked far and wide, and those were the best examples I could find of that.

显然，在任何类似DND的游戏中，你的团队可能会给你一个运送物品的任务。

Obviously, in any like, from a D and D, your jam can give you a mission to deliver an item.

通常，那件物品很危险，你要交付的对象也很危险，还会有人试图偷窃，最后演变成一场劫案。

And, usually, the item is dangerous, and the person you're delivering it to is also dangerous, and people are trying to steal it, and it turns into a heist.

通常是这样。

Usually.

通常事情就是这么发展的。

Usually, that's how that thing goes.

你从一开始就大概能感觉到这是个陷阱。

You kinda know it's you're being set up from the start, typically.

好的。

Okay.

好的。

Okay.

好吧。

Alright.

你这次表现得不错。

Are you you you did well with that one.

是啊。

Yeah.

谢谢。

Thanks.

卡组构筑。

Deck building.

我想在角色扮演游戏里调整我的卡组。

I wanna I wanna tune my deck in a role playing game.

我该怎么做？

What do I do?

你可以帮我。

You can help me.

我想，我觉得你错了，埃里克，你正在尝试做的事情。

I wanna I wanna, like I think I think you're wrong here, Eric, what you're trying to do.

好吧。

Okay.

不。

No.

因为这是我在想一个愚蠢的点。

Because this is I'm trying to think of a a point where it's stupid.

好吧。

Okay.

因为我不说我要买新车，但我喜欢构筑卡组。

Because I don't say, I'm gonna buy a new car, but I like deck building.

得了吧。

Come on.

并非所有东西都需要一一对应翻译。

Not everything has to be a one to one translation.

确实。

True.

我只是好奇它们是否存在。

I'm just curious if they exist.

那太好了，因为卡

That's great because deck building really doesn't have one.

我觉得你只是想难倒朱莉。

I think you're just trying to stump Julie.

嗯，我基本上就是这么做的。

Well, I you pretty much do with deck building.

说实话。

I'm gonna be honest.

我，呃，其实有很多角色扮演游戏是用卡牌而非骰子作为随机数生成机制的，但那并不算是牌库构筑游戏。

I I there are there are plenty of RPGs that use cards instead of dice as their random number generator mechanism, but that's not a deck builder.

比如有些游戏，像《弗兰肯斯坦城堡》或《谵妄》，就只是用一副普通扑克牌。

You have ones that, like, Castle Frankenstein or Deliria just use a regular deck of cards, for example.

但它们本质上只是把卡牌当作骰子用——翻牌看数字大小来决定结果高低，相当于骰子的替代品。

But they're just doing a it's it's literally turning it into a die using the equivalent of die where you're flipping over the cards and the number gives you the result higher or lower type of thing.

也有些游戏会自制精美卡牌，带有不同图案和符号，但本质上仍是作为骰子的替代品使用。

But you have ones that make their own pretty with different art and different symbols, but same kind of a thing where it's basically being used in place replace of dice.

比如我很喜欢的《发条国度》就是这种。

Like, clockwork dominion is one that I like.

那是款我玩过的蒸汽朋克风格游戏。

That's a steampunk one that I've played before.

超级有趣。

Super fun.

但像《永恒之怒》虽然有卡牌系统，其实更像是行动点数机制——你持有一手牌，通过弃牌来使用行动点数进行各种操作。

But you don't have a lot of like, Torgue Eternity has a card system, but it's more like action points where you have a hand and you're basically card shedding to use your action points for things like that.

仍然不是套装收集。

Still not set collection.

所以，不，我想你打断我了。

So, no, I think you stopped me.

我最接近的只是个糟糕的双关语。

The the closest I got was a bad pun.

这是个叫手牌管理的游戏。

It's a game called hand management.

只不过你在创造自己的石头剪刀布式手势符号和胜负规则，然后用手牌管理替代掷骰子。

Only you're using you're creating your own rock paper scissor kind of hand symbols and what beats what, and then you're doing the hand management instead of dice rolls.

所以这就是我最接近牌组构筑的游戏——手牌管理，说真的，这其实就是个糟糕的双关语。

So that's my closest I've got to a deck builder would be hand management, and, really, it's just a bad pun.

我我以为你会推荐一个建造村庄和甲板的游戏。

I I thought you're gonna suggest one where you were building a village and and building some decks.

是啊。

Yeah.

也可以那么做。

Also could be doing that.

不过确实。

But yes.

好吧。

Alright.

我不再为难你了，朱莉。

I'm done trying to stump you, Julie.

我们还能讨论哪些与桌游相关的机制呢？

What what other board game adjacent mechanisms can we talk about?

我想我们差不多结束了。

I think we're about done.

你还有大约两分钟时间，朱莉。

You have you have about two minutes, Julie.

好的。

Alright.

既然如此，我要以大家最爱的工人放置机制来结束。

In that case, I'm gonna end with worker placement, everybody's favorite.

如果你喜欢工人放置，我就直说了——当GM吧。

And if you like worker placement, I'm just gonna say be the GM.

哦。

Oh.

结束。

The end.

想不想玩点工人放置游戏？

You wanna you wanna play some workers?

这是朱莉的深度思考时刻。

This is deep, deep thoughts with Julie.

你说了算。

You are in charge.

等等。

So wait.

你是说你的每个玩家都是你的棋子之一吗？

You're saying that every every one of your players is one of your pawns?

你是这个意思吗？

Is that what you're saying?

他们

That they

这就是你和游戏主持人谈话时他们会告诉你的。

That is you talk to a GM, and that's what they're gonna tell you.

他们不是合作棋子。

They're not cooperative pawns.

但确实如此。

But yes.

我并不把你看作

I don't see you as

一个玩家。

a player.

我把你看作一个小木制棋子，我希望你站在那里，可你总是到处乱跑。

I see you as a little wooden meeple that I want you to stand there and you keep wandering off.

我们玩这个游戏已经五年了，就像我说的，从新冠疫情开始就组建了这个团队。

We play we've been playing for, like I said, for five years now, the group that I have since COVID started.

目前，达斯汀是我们的游戏主持人。

And currently, Dustin is our GM.

我们会轮流担任，因为会产生疲劳感，但你知道，我们都在Zoom上通话。

We take turns because you get fatigue, but, you know, we're all on a Zoom call.

所以大家上线时，都用自己角色的名字命名，而达斯汀总是用各种'神'的变体名。

So everybody jumps on, and their name is their character's name, and Dustin is always some variation of god.

他每周都这样给自己取名。

That's what he names himself every week.

每次都不一样。

It's a different one.

所以没错，他确实喜欢把我们当作他的棋子，而我们则花所有时间试图在这点上让他抓狂。

So, yes, if you he absolutely likes to think that we are his pawns, and we absolutely spend all the time trying to frustrate him on that.

这是一种充满爱意的互动方式。

It's a loving dynamic.

就是这样。

So there you go.

如果其中任何内容引起了你的兴趣，我希望这些信息能有所帮助。

If any of that interested you, I hope that was helpful.

那个龙与快递的游戏听起来像是我会想尝试的东西，不过我觉得里面还有很多小亮点值得一看。

The the dragon delivery game sounds like something I'd like to try, but I think there's there's a lot of little gems in there that that might be worth a look.

完全同意。

Absolutely.

我有一份链接清单，如果大家感兴趣的话，我可以直接

I have a list of links, so if if we're interested, I could just

我们可以把它放在节目说明里。

We can put it in the show notes.

好的。

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

你也挺酷的。

And you Cool.

你可以去探索一下。

You can explore.

没错。

Yeah.

现在，再来一个桌游恐怖故事。

And now, another tale of board gaming horror.

天啊。

Oh my.

太可怕了。

That's horrific.

孩子们，都围过来。

Gather round, children.

几年前，一场大规模暴风雪被预报将在当地游戏展会的周末来袭。

A few years ago, a massive snowstorm was forecasted for the weekend of a local game convention.

预报准确无误。

The forecast was right.

展会首日，积雪已达数英寸。

On the first day of the con, several inches landed.

第二天又降了15英寸。

On the second day, 15 more inches.

狂风呼啸，气温骤降，大雪持续肆虐。

Winds were high, temperatures low, and the snow unrelenting.

那是

It was

一场

a

白茫风暴。

whiteout.

除雪车从第一天起就跟不上进度。

Snowplows couldn't keep up even on day one.

一些原定在展会上主持游戏的人开始取消活动。

Some who were scheduled to host a game at the con began canceling their events.

他们宁愿直接跳过展会，也不愿冒险面对恶劣天气。

They'd sooner skip the con altogether than risk the elements.

随着第二天过去，交通状况持续恶化。

As day two went on, travel conditions worsened.

更多主持人取消了游戏活动。

More hosts canceled games.

时间每过一小时，就越发明显地看出离开会展酒店已变得不可能。

It became clearer with each hour that exiting the convention hotel was becoming impossible.

就连本地参会者也开始在酒店预订房间，赌自己会被困住。

Even attendees who lived locally began booking rooms at the hotel, betting that they would end up stranded.

他们赌对了。

They bet correctly.

我们被大雪困住了。

We were snowed in.

即使能见度更好些，我们也看不到任何扫雪车。

Even if visibility were better, we would have seen no snowplows.

我是每天通勤的本地参会者，但在做决定时犹豫太久。

I was a local attendee commuting in each day, and I dithered too long on my decision.

等我决定订房时，仅剩的几间行政套房价格已比平时高出近一倍。

By the time I decided to book a room, the only ones left were a handful of executive suites at almost double the normal room cost.

但能订到房间已经算幸运了。

But I was fortunate to get a room at all.

有些参会者选择睡在车里。

Some attendees elected to sleep in their cars.

情况变得越来越糟。

Things went from bad to worse.

第二天深夜，暴风雪导致酒店断电。

Late in the evening of day two, the storm knocked out the power to the hotel.

备用发电机启动了，提供昏暗的灯光，但对那些仍在宴会厅玩游戏的人来说几乎没有暖气。

Backup generators kicked on, providing dim lights, but little if any heat for those still gaming in the ballroom.

然而电力中断触发了火警警报。

The disruption in power, however, triggered the fire alarm.

那时我已经躺在高价行政房里试图入睡。

By that point, I was already in my executively priced room trying to sleep.

警报声尖叫了仿佛几个世纪那么久。

The alarm shrieked for what felt like ages.

宴会厅里的人继续玩着游戏。

Those in the ballroom gamed on.

第三天某个时刻电力恢复了，扫雪车清理了酒店周边的道路。

At some point during day three, power returned, and the snowplows cleared the roads to and from the hotel.

这个故事听起来像恐怖片，尤其对那些偏好佛罗里达天气的人来说——但对我们大多数参会者而言，这是一次增进感情的难忘经历，甚至有些刺激。

This tale may seem a horror, particularly to those with a preference for Florida weather, but for most of us at the convention, it was a bonding experience, memorable and somewhat thrilling.

现在让我分享这个故事里真正的恐怖情节。

So let me share a horror within this story.

在大会的第一天晚上，我原本计划和其他几个人一起玩热门的新欧洲游戏。

In the evening of day one of the convention, I had been scheduled to play hot new euro with a few others.

到了约定时间，主持人却没有出现。

At the appointed hour, the host did not show.

时间一分一秒过去。

Time passed.

我们开始担心起来。

We grew worried.

主持人是不是出车祸了？

Had the host been in an accident?

他是不是被困在暴风雪中了？

Was he stranded out in the storm?

否则，如果他来不了，应该会提前取消的。

Otherwise, if he couldn't make it, he likely would have canceled.

那他到底在哪里呢？

So where was he?

好吧，约定时间过后，主办方终于给我们发消息了。

Well, after the appointed hour, the host finally messaged us.

他说他二十分钟后到。

He'd be there in twenty minutes.

我们集体松了一口气。

Collectively, we sighed with relief.

最终，主办方还是来了。

Eventually, the host arrived.

我们问他是否安好。

We asked if he was okay.

“没事，”他说。

Yeah, he said.

“抱歉。

Sorry.

我睡过头了。”

I overslept.

又是晚上了。

Again, it was the evening.

从我们的表情中，他能看出我们很困惑。

From the expressions on our faces, he could tell we were confused.

他解释说，我回家小睡了一会儿，结果睡得比计划中久。

I went home to take a nap, he explained, and I slept longer than I planned to.

我们嘟囔着说只要他没事就好，然后开始准备热腾腾的新欧元。

We mumbled something about how our just being glad he was okay, and we began setting up hot new euro.

然而，由于开始得晚，我们没时间完成准备工作。

We did not, however, have time to finish, not with our late start.

暴风雪阻挡不了我们。

A blizzard couldn't stop us.

停电也阻挡不了我们，但小睡可以。

A power outage couldn't stop us, but a nap could.

小睡。

Nap.

好吧。

Alright.

我有几点意见。

A couple comments.

第一，去个不用操心这些的游戏展会。

One, go to a game convention where you don't have to worry about that.

东天星和西天星从没关闭过。

Daystar East and Daystar West never closed.

我有点喜欢这个主意。

I kinda like the idea.

整晚都这样。

All night long.

被大雪困住，然后想着，好吧。

Being snowed in and being like, alright.

我想我们只能待在这儿了。

I guess we're here.

让我们继续玩到断电为止。

Let's keep playing until the power went out.

我我我猜当时很难看清，但我打赌他们中有些人拿出了手电筒，还想继续玩

That I I I imagine it was hard to see, but I bet some of them had their flashlights out, and they were just trying to still play

游戏。

the game.

天哪。

Oh my word.

这部分现在有点戳中痛处了。

Part that part's a little close to home right now.

糟透了。

Bad.

另外，在展会上要正常睡觉，各位。

The other thing is sleep normally at conventions, folks.

我怎么说都不为过。

I cannot emphasize this enough.

这种想法，你知道的，我会熬到凌晨四点。

This whole idea of, well, you know, I'll stay up till four in the morning.

你只是在折腾自己和别人。

You're just messing with yourself and everyone else.

快去睡觉吧。

Just go to sleep.

你不会错过任何东西的。

You're not missing anything.

所有玩家第二天都会在的，这样你就不用打盹了。

The all the gamers will be there the next day, then you don't have to take nap.

我保证。

Promise.

我保证。

Promise.

还有，如果你要来回开车，那就更糟了。

Also also, if you're driving back and forth, that's even worse.

是啊。

Yeah.

因为疲劳驾驶的危害和酒驾一样严重。

Because driving sleep deprived is as bad as driving drunk.

对。

Yeah.

不。

No.

不好。

Not good.

好吧。

Alrighty.

嗯，好消息。

Well, good news.

我们要播放些好消息。

We're playing some Good news.

好多桌游啊。

So many board games.

快到年底了，还有这么多游戏没玩。

We're getting close to the end of the year, and there's just so many games left to play.

不过开心的是，昨天只来了20个。

But, happily, only 20 showed up yesterday.

所以只有20个。

So Just the 20.

包括西红柿和姜饼屋。

Including tomatoes and gingerbread houses.

人们说每朵玫瑰都有刺，但并非每朵玫瑰都有呼啦圈。

They say that every rose has its thorn, but not every rose has a hula hoop.

所以我女儿昨天...这引出了一个游戏。

So my daughter yesterday this leads into a game here.

我女儿昨天收到一份十二月待办事项清单，看到上面写着'做奶酪拼盘'时她笑了。

My daughter yesterday was got a list of things to do in December, and she laughed because on the list was make a cheese platter.

我说，这不过是每个月复制粘贴的内容。

And I said, that's just a copy and paste from every month.

你知道的，三月要做的事。

You know, things to do in March.

做个

Make a

奶酪拼盘。

cheese platter.

奶酪拼盘。

Cheese platter.

但说到奶酪，朱莉，你玩过《Fromage》的续作了吧。

But speaking of cheese, Julie, you've played the sequel to Fromage.

是的。

I did.

我上周玩了很多游戏，但都是家庭经典款。

So I played a lot of games the past week, but they were all family classics.

我很享受球船游戏。

And so and I enjoyed the ball boat.

我之前就提到过这些，我们都很享受教导那些放假回家的大学时光，除了已经玩过《罗马基石》的Dan，那游戏真是有趣极了。

I've talked about them in in the past, and we all had a great time teaching the college students who are home on vacation besides Dan, who's already played Foundations of Rome was a hoot.

哦，不错。

Oh, nice.

不过我们已经讨论过这个了。

But we've we've covered that.

所以我玩的新游戏是Tramagio。

And so the one new game I played was Tramagio.

我的游戏小组超爱Tramagio。

So my gaming group loved Tramagio.

这是我们小组去年最爱的游戏，已经玩过无数次了。

I it was the favorite of the group from last year, and we've played it a ton.

所以在Gen Con展会上，Danielle和John去买了Formagio，因为他们觉得——听着。

So at Gen Con, Danielle and John went and bought Formagio because they were like, listen.

这个我们已经玩得够多了。

This is we've played it enough.

我们可以获取一些新的地点和规则集，上周我们第一次以小组形式玩了它。

We we we could get some new some new locations and new rule sets, and we played it as a group for the first time this past week.

所以无论你之前是否玩过For Mange，规则集相同：最多四名玩家，每人有四块楔形区域。

So if you've played for Mange or not before, same rule sets of you have up to four players, you have four wedges.

游戏时，你放置三个工人中的一个，他们在你的楔形区域（即披萨饼形状的板块上）专精于三种不同类型的奶酪。

When it's when you're playing, you place your one of three workers, and they have three different types of cheeses that they are specialized in on your wedge in in the in the pie.

每个工人都有不同的行动选择功能，放置位置将决定奶酪楔形的朝向。

And so each one has a different type of thing it does with action selection, and where you place it will determine the way that the wedge of cheese is facing.

当你的工人再次面朝你时，你可以收回并重新使用他们。

So when your worker is facing you again, you can pick them back up and use them.

共有三种等级：青铜、白银和黄金，通常预示着终局计分时的得分潜力。

There are three different types of there's bronze, silver, and gold tiers, which typically inform you what the point count is going to be, for endgame scoring.

青铜等级意味着你下一回合就能收回它。

So a bronze is going to be you're gonna get it back the very next turn.

银级通常需要两回合。

Silver usually is two turns.

金级则需要三回合。

Gold is three turns.

然后它们有多种不同的计分方式。

And then they do a variety of different ways of of scoring.

你可以在楔形区域插入不同的东西，从而有多种玩法可能。

You can slot in different things in the wedges so that you can have a variety of ways that it can play out.

这样那些追求极致优化的玩家就无法单纯记忆棋盘布局了。

So if you have those, min maxers, they can't just memorize the board.

嗯。

Mhmm.

这也很不错。

And that's nice too.

所以，这些就是基本规则了。

So, yeah, those those are your basics.

Formagio采用相似原则但有所不同，每个扇形区现在都是不同的行动选择方式。

What Formagio does is similar principles, different each wedge is now a different way to do action selection.

我注意到最大的变化之一是Fromage将大量终局计分直接与那些层级绑定。

One of the biggest changes that I note noted was that Fromage has a lot of endgame scoring tied into those tiers that Fromageo gives you right away.

你知道你不需要在最后才计算这些。

You know what the you're not calculating it at the end.

没有那种不断累积、越来越大的终局构建过程。

There's not as much building to an endgame that's getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

而且，在黄金层级之上还有一个白金层级。

If and, also, there's a platinum tier above the gold tier.

所以如果你决定放弃整个回合（因为现在需要四轮才能收回）。

So if you decide to forego an entire round with a because now you've got four turns before you get it back.

如果你选择使用那个角色并且知道不会收回，你就立即知道最终会得到10分。

So if you choose to play that character and you know you're not gonna get it back, you immediately know you're getting the 10 points at the end.

这不是一个不断累积的计算过程。

It's not a building on a calculating thing.

所以这种方式很直接，但不用角色时也更漫长，与Formage相比需要心理调整。

So it was straightforward that way, but also longer without a character, and that was a mental adjustment compared to Formage.

但但还有意大利地图，就像法国地图一样，属于区域控制类型。

But but there was another there was the map of Italy, just like there's a map of France, which is a area control type of thing.

玩法上有些不同。

It plays a little bit differently.

他们做了很多类似的事情，但并不完全相同。

Like, they they did a lot of similar things, but not the same.

对我们来说，这种变化很不错。

So for us, it was nice for variety.

如果你有Fermage但不常玩，我不确定你是否需要它，但对我们来说是个不错的选择。

If you have Fermage and you don't play it very often, I don't know that you would necessarily need it, but for us, it was a rose.

好的。

Okay.

这是独立游戏还是Formage的扩展？

Is this a standalone game or an expansion for Formage?

这是一个独立的扩展包。

It's a standalone expansion.

你可以混搭不同区域来玩，也可以单独玩Formagio或Formage。

You can mix and match the regions and play it that way, or you could just play Formagio or just Formage.

酷。

Cool.

我对混搭玩法的唯一顾虑是，很遗憾你没法把两个游戏都装进一个盒子里。

My only concern about the mixing and matching is that you're not gonna be able to fit them both into one box unfortunately.

他们没有提供大盒子，所以你得带着两个盒子，不过也不算太麻烦。

They don't have a big box available so you'd have to bring both boxes and it's not a it's not like it's that hard to do.

只是提醒一下这点。

Just keep that in mind.

人们会问该买哪个，我会说如果你两个都没有且不确定的话，就买Formage。

People are gonna ask which one to get, and I'd be like, if you don't own either and you're not sure, get Formage.

如果你是资深玩家，就买Formagio。

If you're a gamer, get Formagio.

但它们

But they're

这很公平。

That's fair.

它们在复杂度上大概相差0.5左右。

They're, like, point five different between the two in in in in in complexity scale.

是啊。

Yeah.

酷。

Cool.

如果要选一个我会选Fermagio。

I would get Fermagio if I was getting one.

好吧。

Alright.

我也会选它，不过是因为里面有不同水果，其中有无花果，这让我觉得很有趣。

I also would, but that's because there was different fruit, and one of the fruits was figs, and that just amused me.

就是这样。

That was it.

要不是因为著名的牛顿饼干，大多数X世代的人根本不知道无花果是什么。

Most of Gen Xers wouldn't know what figs were if it wasn't for the famous Newtons.

这是事实，埃里克。

It's the truth, Eric.

好吧。

Okay.

如果有人提到假货，你就说牛顿。

If someone said fake, you said Newton.

好的。

Alright.

埃里克，我不明白你这里的游戏名称是什么意思。

Eric, I don't understand the name of your game here.

当然。

Sure.

在PAX展会上，你可以做的一件很棒的事就是参观'初览大厅'，那里陈列着他们在埃森展上收集的游戏。

So one of the fine things that you can do at PAX is visit the 1st Look Hall, which is a collection of games that they picked up at Essenspiel.

我当时想，既然我去过埃森展，逛这里时应该会认识大部分游戏。

And I thought, well, I was at Essen, so I'm gonna know most of these as I walk around in there.

但他们收集的许多小型游戏，我都不知道它们的存在。

But there were a bunch of small games that they picked up that I did not know existed.

而且很多桌子都坐满了人，所以我四处转悠想找个空位试玩这些没玩过的游戏。

Also, many of these tables are full, and so I I wander around looking for an open space to play one of these I haven't tried.

最后我玩的那款游戏叫《侏儒议会》。

And the one I ended up at is called Gnomic Parliament.

这是个政府模拟游戏，你扮演一群侏儒，负责通过法律。

This is a government simulator where you're a bunch of gnomes and you are passing laws.

这些法律会影响你在游戏中如何得分。

These laws affect how you earn points in the game.

其中一位玩家担任总统，他们将提名新法律生效，这些法律决定了得分方式和可能获得的奖励。

One of these players is the president, and they will nominate a new law to go into effect, which governs how you earn points and what bonuses you might get.

其中一些法律是临时性的。

Some of these laws are one time.

它们仅在本轮生效。

They just happen this round.

其他则是永久性法律，且最多只能有三条。

Others are permanent laws, and there can be only three of those.

游戏开始时板上已有几条法律，但随着更多法律的引入，它们会逐渐被替换。

You start with a couple on the board already, but they will sort of scroll off as more laws come into play.

于是，作为提名法律的议长，我们现在要讨论这条规则是否适合我们地精社会——比如它规定若有人投票反对多数派，将获得巨额奖励。

So I, as the president of nominated a law, we now get to discuss whether this is a good idea for us as a nomic society to have this rule, which maybe says, if one person votes against the majority, they get a huge bonus.

现在我们开始讨论：这是个好主意吗？

And so now we discuss, is this a good idea?

我们该这么做吗？

Should we do this?

然后我们全体进行投票。

And we all get to vote.

我们有一个小投票筹码，用来表示我们对这个特定事项是赞成还是反对。

We have a little voting chip, and it says whether we vote yay or nay on this particular thing.

我们还可以添加游说者，这些小方块代表对我们投票事项的额外支持或反对票。

We can also add lobbyists, little cubes that are extra votes for or against whatever we're voting on.

如果你公开投票并投入足够多的小方块，就能获得一个奖励方块。

And if you vote publicly and spend enough cubes, you get like a bonus cube.

这样你就能真正表达：是的，

And so you can really say, yeah.

我确实想朝这个特定方向发展。

I really wanna go in this particular direction.

但当所有人都投票后，你可以再进行一次秘密投票，添加更多游说者方块来适当影响结果走向。

But then once everyone has voted, you can then do a secret vote and add a few more lobbyist cubes to sort of tip things in the proper direction.

随后揭晓投票结果，看法律是否通过。

You then reveal and see who or whether the law passed or not.

如果你的投票与多数人一致，就能得一分。

If you voted with the majority, you score a point.