616. 伊丽莎白一世：斧落之时（上）

经常跟那群纨绔子弟混在一起。

He kind of hangs out with the lads.

不过年纪比他们稍长些。

He's a bit older than them, though.

我的意思是，他和亨利处得好是因为他们都热衷马术、打猎这些运动。

I mean, he gets on well with Henry because he's all about horses and hunting and sport.

他会穿件马甲背心。

He'd wear a gilet.

他绝对来自那种阶层。

He'd absolutely from that kind of class.

他开的是路虎。

He drives a Land Rover.

他确实如此。

He absolutely does.

没错，他就是那样。

Yeah, he does.

他就像弗格森的父亲，弗格森少校。

He's like Fergie's father, major Ferguson.

罗纳德·弗格差不多就是那种人。

That's kind of what Ronald Ferg.

罗纳德·弗格森少校。

Major Ronald Ferguson.

但他其实并不具备皇室岳父的派头。

But he's not really the staff of a royal father-in-law.

我是说，这想法似乎有点疯狂。

I mean, just it seems kind of a mad idea.

我是说，安妮并不符合传统审美标准的美。

I mean, Anne is not conventionally beautiful.

她并不具备那种，你知道的，能让她脱颖而出成为皇室妻子的血统。

She's not of, you know, the kind of pedigree that would mark her out as a potential royal wife.

所以问题就在于，她能为这场联姻带来什么？

And so the question is then, you know, what's she bringing to the party?

她是如何让亨利将她视为一位可能的王后人选？

How does she get Henry to think of her as a a a possible queen?

而你提到了她那种法式魅力。

And you mentioned her her kind of French glamour.

她在法国区已经待了相当长一段时间。

She has been at the French Quarter a fair while.

她非常聪明。

She's very smart.

她非常老练世故。

She's very sophisticated.

她非常时尚。

She's very stylish.

在那个法国时尚堪称英格兰人标杆的时代，特蕾西·博尔曼——她写过一本关于安博林与伊丽莎白关系的精彩著作——

And in an age when French fashion kind of is the marker for people in England, She has so Tracy Borman, she she wrote a brilliant book on Amberlynn and her relationship to to Elizabeth.

她将其描述为令人无法抗拒的。

She describes it as an irresistible.

她能歌善舞，乐器演奏技艺远超英国宫廷所有贵妇。

She she sings, she dances, she plays musical instruments much better than any of the ladies at the English court.

她的着装惊艳绝伦。

She's sensationally well dressed.

虽然她热爱时尚本身，但也深知时尚对想成为王后之人的重要性。

And while she loves fashion for its own sake, she also knows that fashion matters for someone who wants to be a queen.

若想成为王后，就必须有王后的风范。

If you want to be a queen, you have to look like a queen.

她在那方面非常出色。

She's very good at that.

而且她非常聪明，我认为她在某种程度上是知识型的。

She's also she's very clever, and she, again, I think is intellectual in a way.

亨利非常聪明。

Henry's very smart.

我觉得，他们之间有着思想上的共鸣。

I think, you know, there's a meeting of minds there.

安妮在法国宫廷期间，深受一位非凡女性——纳瓦拉的玛格丽特影响，她是弗朗索瓦一世的姐姐。

And Anne, while she was at the French court, was strongly influenced by a very remarkable woman, Marguerite of Navarre, who's the sister of Francis the first.

她对路德的思想非常感兴趣。

And she is very interested in Luther.

她对当时从德国传来的所有最前沿、最时髦的宗教思想潮流都深感兴趣。

She's very interested in all the kind of the trendiest, most cutting edge currents of religious thought that are coming out of Germany at the time.

宗教改革正在兴起。

The reformation is is kind of kicking off.

我的意思是，她并非新教徒——这个词在当时用还显得为时过早。

She has I mean, she's not a Protestant, which in any way would would be an anachronistic word at this point.

严格意义上的新教徒那时还不存在。

Protestants as such don't exist yet.

她是一位改革者。

You know, she would she's she's a reformer.

她是福音派信徒，并且崇拜路德。

She's an evangelical, and she admires Luther.

安妮似乎从她那里汲取了各种福音派思想。

And Anne seems to have picked up various evangelical ideas from her.

这些思想包括：你可以与上帝建立直接无中介的关系，不需要祭司作为你与神明之间的中介。

So these would include the idea that you could have a direct unmediated relationship with God, that you don't need priests to kind of mediate between you and the divine.

每个人都迫切需要接触圣经，而不仅仅是那些能阅读拉丁文的人。

The urgent need for everyone, not just those who can read Latin to have access to scripture.

因此，他们认为圣经应该以通俗语言广泛传播，并认为教会腐败需要改革，尤其对看似非常腐败和世俗化的教皇制度感到忧虑。

So the the idea that the bible should be readily available in the vernacular, and a sense that the church is corrupt and that it needs to be reformed, and a particular anxiety about a papacy that seems very corrupt and worldly.

玛格丽特本人从未走到公开主张废除教皇至高权力的地步。

And Marguerite herself never goes so far as to say, well, we should, you know, cast off papal supremacy.

我们应该废除教皇。

We should bin the pope.

但我认为安妮，特别是当她从法国宫廷回到英格兰时，已经完全接受了路德的思想。

But I think Anne, certainly by the time she gets back to England from the French court, I think she's gone the full Luther.

我想她某种程度上接受了这种观点。

I think she's kind of buying into that.

这一切意味着她非常时髦。

So what all that means is she's very stylish.

她非常时尚。

She's very fashionable.

她具有欧洲大陆气质。

She's continental.

她世故老练。

She's sophisticated.

她带着英格兰最新的思潮归来，这些思想让许多英国人至今仍难以理解。

She's returned to England with the latest ideas that lots of people in England are only just struggling to get their heads around.

她显然非常沉着自信。

She's clearly very poised, self confident.

我想她具备凯瑟琳所没有的特质——凯瑟琳一直是个尽职的妻子，你知道的，或许按王室标准来说略显低调。

I guess she offers something that Catherine, who's always been a very dutiful wife, you know, perhaps slightly unassuming, I mean, by royal standards.

你看，她拥有凯瑟琳不具备的魅力，这也是亨利那些情妇们所无法提供的。

You know, she offers something that Catherine doesn't and that also Henry's various kind of mistresses don't offer.

她看起来酷多了，不是吗？

She seems much cooler, doesn't she?

她更带刺儿。

She's spikier.

她可以

She can be

有点难相处，这个安妮，你知道的，她说话尖刻，有时充满轻蔑与嘲讽，但她确实很有趣。

a bit difficult, Anne, you know, as in she's acerbic and she can be very scornful and scathing, but she's really she's interesting.

而且她把他玩弄于股掌之间，因为宫里其他贵妇，你看，当亨利示好时，她们都受宠若惊基本就顺从了。

Well, and also she plays him brilliantly because most of the ladies in the court, you know, if Henry comes calling, they're very flattered and basically kinda give in to him.

但安妮不会。

Anne doesn't.

据记载她会用俏皮的回避撩拨他，但也仅止于此。

She's described as tantalizing him with her pretty ducks, but that's basically as far as it goes.

她还非常直白地告诉他：我宁失性命，不失贞节。

And she tells him very forthrightly, I would rather lose my life than my honesty.

于是她对他说，如果你想和我睡觉，就得给我一个名分。

And so she tells him, you know, if you want to sleep with me, then you're gonna have to make an honest woman of me.

这意味着要让她成为亨利的女王。

And that means making her Henry's queen.

我是说，先暂停一下。

I mean, is just a pause a second.

按照标准来看这太疯狂了，我是说，纵观英国历史，

That is bonkers by the standards of the I mean, all through English history, there have

国王有情妇的情况屡见不鲜。

been kings with mistresses.

你说得完全正确，但这里有个特殊情况：亨利已娶了一位他认为无法为他继承香火的妻子。

Well, you're absolutely right, but there is a special circumstance, which is that Henry is married to a woman who he thinks can't give him a sum.

他怀疑这点，并希望安妮能够做到。

He suspects that and hopes that Anne can.

更重要的是，安妮有办法解开婚姻这个戈尔迪之结，因为离婚前景存在巨大障碍。

And more than that, Anne has a way of cutting the Gordian knot around the marriage because there is a huge issue around any prospect of divorce.

因为根据教会教义，婚姻是基督亲自设立的圣礼。

Because marriage, according to the church, is a sacrament instituted by Christ himself.

所以神所配合的，人不可分开。

So what God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

我是说，这看起来完全是黑白分明的。

I mean, that seems absolutely black and white.

如何绕过这个限制？

How do you get around that?

亨利开始相信他与凯瑟琳的婚姻是无效的，是对上帝的冒犯，因此上帝希望解除这段婚姻。

Well, Henry has come to believe that his marriage to Catherine is invalid and an offense to God and that, therefore, God wants it dissolved.

在亨利看来，凯瑟琳未能给他生个儿子，这显然是神怒的明证。他和那些驯服的教士们引用《旧约·利未记》中的经文。

And in Henry's opinion, Catherine's failure to give him a son is clear evidence of divine anger, And he and his kind of tame clerics cite a verse from Leviticus in the Old Testament.

人若娶弟兄之妻，这本是污秽之事。

If a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing.

他揭露了弟兄的下体。

He hath uncovered his brother's nakedness.

他们必无子女。

They shall be childless.

当然，亨利确实娶了他兄弟的妻子。

And, of course, Henry has taken his brother's wife.

凯瑟琳曾是亚瑟的遗孀。

Catherine was the widow of Arthur.

亨利随后娶了她。

Henry then married him.

他当时获得了教皇的特许才能这么做，但现在他认为那份特许在上帝眼中根本站不住脚。

He'd got a a special papal dispensation to do that, But he's now thinking that dispensation, you know, doesn't cut the mustard with God.

因此他开始不断施压教皇，要求宣布婚姻无效。

And so he start he's been pressing the pope to grant him an annulment.

在正常情况下，教皇或许会乐意成全。

And probably under normal circumstances, the pope would have been happy to oblige.

但问题在于，正如我们提到的，凯瑟琳是查理五世的姑妈，教皇若必须选择，宁愿得罪亨利也不敢冒犯查理五世。

But the problem is, as we mentioned, Catherine is Charles the fifth's aunt, and the pope given a choice is always going to risk offending Henry rather than Charles the fifth.

当然。

Of course.

因为，我是说，为了让人们了解背景，罗马刚刚被查理五世的军队洗劫一空。

Because they I mean, just to give people a sense of the context, Rome has just been sacked by Charles the fifth's troops.

对吧？

Right?

教皇实际上成了查理五世的囚徒。

The pope is effectively Charles the fifth's prisoner.

他绝不会冒犯查理五世。

He's never gonna offend Charles the fifth.

是啊。

Yeah.

这让亨利和他的大臣们陷入了彻底的困境。

And so this leaves Henry and his ministers in an absolute jam.

所以这件事被称为'国王的大难题'。

And so it's called the king's great matter.

当唯一能批准离婚的人——教皇——拒绝你时，你该怎么办？

How do you do you get a divorce when the one person who can grant that divorce, the pope, is not gonna give it to you?

这让亨利陷入了多年徒劳的谈判和挫败中。

And so it's locked Henry into years of fruitless negotiations and frustration.

我的意思是，这有点像英国脱欧的翻版。

I mean, it's kind of incredibly Brexit.

你知道，大使们不断奔走却屡遭拒绝。

You know, ambassador's endlessly going and being rebuffed.

但现在他不仅被安妮吸引，不仅认为她能给他梦寐以求的财富，还能提供解决国王心头大事的钥匙。

But now not only is he attracted to Anne, not only does he think she can give him the sum that he so desperately wants, but she can also provide the key that would unlock the king's great matter.

因为如果按照路德的教导，安妮也认为教皇是巴比伦的大淫妇、敌基督者，那谁还在乎教皇怎么想？

Because if as Luther teaches and Anne has come to think the Pope is the great whore of Babylon, the antichrist, then who cares what the Pope thinks?

无所谓。

Doesn't matter.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以在很多方面，这对亨利来说都是双赢，因为如果一切顺利，他不仅能得到心仪的女人，还能摆脱外国势力影响，在宗教意义上成为自己王国的主宰。

So in many ways, this is a win win for Henry because not only will he get the woman he wants if this all works out, but he will throw off foreign influence, become master in his own house as it were in religious terms.

当然从长远来看，还有那些修道院的资产。

And also in the long run, of course, was all those monasteries.

非常诱人。

Very tempting.

没错。

Yeah.

嗯，这里面有各种好处和前景。

Well, there's all kinds of goodies and prospects.

于是亨利召集了一群学者来权衡此事。

So Henry summons a load of scholars to weigh this up.

他们都是英格兰学者。

They're English scholars.

令人惊讶的是，他们告诉他：可以。

And amazingly, they they tell him, yeah.

太棒了。

Brilliant.

放手去做吧。

Go for it.

在这件事上带头的是位杰出的学者托马斯·克兰默，我们将在本系列节目中持续听到他的名字。

And the guy who takes the lead in this is a very brilliant scholar called Thomas Cranmer, who we'll be hearing about over the course of this series.

他将成为关键人物。

He's gonna be a key player.

但本质上，托马斯·克兰默和他的学者同僚向亨利证明——令其确信——作为国王的权力高于教皇。

But, basically, Thomas Cranmer and his fellow scholars demonstrate to Henry's satisfaction that his power as king is superior to that of the popes.

一旦亨利接受了这点，事态便急速发展。

And once that's been accepted by Henry, things then move very fast.

于是在1531年，英国教会授予亨利'唯一保护者'、'最高领主'的头衔，甚至'在基督律法允许范围内英国教会与神职人员的最高领袖'。

So in 1531, the English church grants Henry the title of singular protector, supreme lord, and even so far as the law of Christ allows, supreme head of the English church and clergy.

这实质上就是将教皇边缘化了。

So that's essentially shunting the pope to one side.

同年，凯瑟琳被逐出宫廷，她的住所被赐予前侍女之一——安妮·博林。

In the same year, Catherine is banished from court, and her apartments are given to one of her former ladies in waiting, and that is Anne Boleyn.

次年，安妮凭借自身权利晋封贵族，成为首位获此殊荣的女性，并被授予彭布罗克侯爵头衔——这是亨利恢复的一个已绝迹的爵位。

The following year, Anne is raised to the peerage in her own right, the first woman to be honored in this way, and she's granted the Marquisate Of Pembroke, which is an extinct title that Henry resurrects.

这很重要，因为亨利只能与同等地位者结婚。

And this matters because Henry can only marry someone of that rank.

听过我们七月份制作的苏格兰玛丽女王系列的听众可能记得：每当玛丽女王缔结不幸婚姻时，她都必须先将其丈夫擢升为公爵，使其配得上女王的身份。

And people who listen to the series we did on Mary Queen of Scots this July may remember that every time Mary Queen of Scots makes one of her unfortunate marriages, she has to raise her husband to be to a dukedom so that he will be of of of worthy rank to to be married to a queen.

所以，基本上，这就是亨利在这里对安妮所做的事。

So, basically, that's what Henry is doing with Anne here.

到了1532年12月，安妮知道自己怀孕了。

By December 1532, Anne knows she's pregnant.

所以你知道，事情真的需要加速推进了。

And so, you know, things the foot really needs to be put down on the pedal.

于是在1533年1月25日，亨利在威斯敏斯特的私人礼拜堂与她结婚，尽管事实上他与凯瑟琳的婚姻废除令仍未获批。

So on the 01/25/1533, Henry marries her in his private chapel in Westminster despite the fact that actually the annulment of his marriage to Catherine still hasn't come through.

因此严格来说，他现在是重婚。

So effectively, he's now bigamous.

3月30日，托马斯·克兰默被祝圣为坎特伯雷大主教，他得到这个职位是因为亨利知道他会按照国王的意愿行事——即全力认可亨利行为的合法性。

On the March 30, Thomas Cranmer is consecrated as the archbishop of Canterbury, and he gets the job because Henry knows that, you know, he's gonna do what he needs the archbishop to do, which is basically to absolutely affirm the legitimacy of what he's going through.

根据威尼斯大使的记录，1533年复活节时，安妮女侯爵以王后身份与国王一同参加大弥撒，'身着金线礼服，佩戴最华贵的珠宝，尽显王后威仪，并公开设宴'。

So at Easter fifteen thirty three, again, quoting the Venetian ambassador, the Marchioness Anne went with the king to high mass as queen and with all the pomp of a queen clad in cloth of gold and loaded with the richest jewels, and she dined in public.

5月29日，她从格林尼治宫乘船沿泰晤士河前往伦敦塔。

Then on the May 29, she sails from the Palace Of Greenwich up the River Thames to the Tower Of London.

她走下船只。

She steps out from the boat.

绕行至塔楼正门，穿过护城河。

She goes round to the main entrance into the tower, crosses the moat.

亨利以亲吻礼迎接她，夫妇二人退居亨利特意为安妮装饰得富丽堂皇的寝宫。

She's greeted by Henry with a kiss and the couple retire to apartments that Henry has had decorated in splendid magnificence specifically for Anne.

两天后，她身着白衣举行入城仪式，被赞颂为'贞洁的完美典范'。

Two days later, she makes her ceremonial entry into London dressed in white, and she is extolled as a splendid image of chastity.

1533年6月1日，她受膏加冕，忏悔者圣爱德华的王冠戴在了她头上。

And on the 06/01/1533, she is anointed, and the crown of Saint Edward the confessor is placed on her head.

而这顶王冠通常是为君主本人保留的。

And this is the crown that is usually reserved for the monarch himself.

因此这是莫大的荣耀。

So it is a signal honor.

所以原因在于

So the reason for

这种特殊荣誉想必是因为现在对所有人来说都显而易见。

the signal honor presumably is because it's very obvious to everybody now.

如果她在12月就知道自己怀孕了，那么现在所有人都能明显看出她即将分娩。

If she knew she was pregnant in December, it must be obvious to everybody now that she is expecting a child.

而普遍的假设（这个毫无根据的假设）是这将是个儿子。

And the general assumption is that this will be the assumption based on nothing is that this will be a son.

嗯，她被描述为贞洁的完美典范，但同时又被描述为略显孕态。

Well, so it's I mean, she's being described as a splendid image of chastity, but she's also being described as somewhat bigger with child.

你说得对，这次怀孕让亨利安下心来，太棒了。

And so you're right that this pregnancy reassures Henry, brilliant.

现在我终于有个能为我生下儿子的女人了。

I now have a woman who can give me a son.

如果安妮怀的是他的儿子，那么必须竭尽全力明确安妮是他合法妻子，这样他的儿子才能合法继承王位。

And if Anne is pregnant with his son, then it's absolutely essential that everything is done to make clear that Anne is legitimately his wife and therefore his son will legitimately be the heir to the throne.

于是在8月26日，已成为英格兰王后的安妮·博林退居格林威治的产房，并在9月7日开始分娩。

And so it is on the August 26 that Anne Boleyn, now the queen of England, retires to her birthing chamber in Greenwich and on the September 7, she goes into labor.

Reiki，正如我们所知，这个结果对Henry来说会有点失望，我们将在休息后回来看看他如何应对。

Reiki, well, as we know, the results of this will be a little bit of a disappointment for Henry, and we will return after the break to find out how he deals with it.

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安妮·博林刚被加冕为英格兰女王。

So Anne Boleyn, she's just been crowned queen of England.

背后有着各种激动人心的政治和神学发展。

All kinds of exciting political and theological developments going on in the background.

她开始分娩了。

She has gone into labor.

她生下了一个孩子。

She has been delivered of a child.

天大的好消息。

Brilliant news.

亨利八世终于有了继承人，是个男孩。

It is an heir at last for Henry VIII, and it is a boy.

哦不，其实不是。

Oh, no, it's actually not.

哦，是个女孩，太让人失望了。

Oh, girl, what a massive letdown.

事情是这样的。

So here's the thing.

你可能会认为亨利会大发雷霆，安妮·博林就要完蛋了。

You would think that Henry would be furious and this would be curtains for Anne Boleyn.

很多人可能觉得，确实如此。

And lots of people probably think, well, it is.

但并没有立即发生，对吧？

But it isn't straight away, right?

他并没有因此完全放弃安妮·博林。

He doesn't completely give up on Anne Boleyn after this.

我正要说他是个理智的人。

I I was about to say he's a reasonable man.

我是说，在很多方面他并不理智，但他必须承认生女孩的概率有五成。

I mean, in many ways he's not, but he must recognize there's a fiftyfifty chance that it would have been a girl.

你看，他确实很失望，但

Know, he's disappointed, but

他确实失望，但要知道安妮已经成功怀孕，孩子很健康。

He is disappointed, but also, know, Anne's had a successful pregnancy, the baby's healthy.

她完全有可能再次怀孕并给他生个儿子。

There's every prospect that she'll get pregnant again and give him a son.

而且他现在有了合法的公主，总比什么都没有强。

You know, and also he now has a legitimate princess, so that's better than nothing.

所以他并没有否认自己的小女儿。

And so he's you know, he in no way repudiates his baby daughter.

他甚至给予了她各种宠爱。

He kind of shows her all kinds of of marks of favor.

他给她取名为伊丽莎白——令人惊讶的是，安妮本想叫她玛丽，想把玛丽公主从记录中抹去。

So her name, the name he gives her Elizabeth, and amazingly, Anne had wanted to call her Mary to erase princess Mary from the, you know, from the ledger.

但亨利说不行。

And Henry says, no.

我那样做就太过分了。

I'm not that's that's that's poor.

但他选择伊丽莎白这个名字是为了纪念他的母亲——约克的伊丽莎白。

So but he chooses Elizabeth because it's a tribute to his mother, Elizabeth of York.

随后伊丽莎白在格林威治接受了洗礼。

Elizabeth is then baptized in Greenwich.

伦敦市长带着40位城市显贵骑马前来，都是些有权有势的人物。

The mayor of London is rode down there with 40 of the the city's worthies, you know, kind of moves and shakers.

伊丽莎白没能让法国国王弗朗索瓦一世当教父——如果她是男孩的话本可以实现的。

And Elizabeth doesn't get Francis the first, the king of France, as a godfather, which she would have done had she been a boy.

不过她确实请到了坎特伯雷大主教托马斯·克兰默，这也不差。

But she does get Thomas Cranmer and, you know, archbishop of Canterbury, that's not bad.

当然，坎特伯雷大主教的参与相当于一种合法性的认可，暗示上帝承认她并非私生女，这很重要。

And, of course, the archbishop of Canterbury also is all you know, it's it's a kind of imprimatur of legitimacy, suggests that that god is saying she's not a bastard, so that's great.

洗礼结束后——亨利和安妮并未出席，这不符合传统——她被抱出来时，帝国大使尤斯塔斯·夏普奎斯这个对安妮怀有敌意的见证人，

Then after the baptism, which Henry and Anne are are not at it, that's not the the the custom, she's brought out so, Eustace Chapequise, the imperial ambassador, he's a very hostile witness to Anne.

他描述了当时的情形。

She he he describes what happens.

教堂门前的传令官宣布她为英格兰公主。

So the herald in front of the church door proclaimed her princess of England.

到了十二月，在一个阴雨绵绵的寒冷冬日，

Then in December, it's a very wintry day, drizzle falling on the streets of London.

她以盛大的仪式骑马穿过伦敦城，前往亨利为她选定的官方居所。

She rides with splendid ceremony through the capital, out of it, onwards towards the house that Henry has decided will be her official residence.

这座名为哈特菲尔德的宫殿位于伦敦以北20英里的赫特福德郡乡间。

And this is a palace called Hatfield, and it lies 20 miles north of London in, rural Hertfordshire.

而且它靠近首都，亨利去探望很方便，但同时也较不易受瘟疫侵袭，这总是需要考虑的因素。

And it's close to the capital, so easy for Henry to visit it, but it's also, less likely to be swept by plague, which is always a consideration.

所以他这是在为她着想。

So he's looking out for her.

对于一个四个月大的女婴来说，能拥有这样的地方相当令人印象深刻。

And it's a it's a pretty impressive place for a four month old baby girl to have.

它有一个宏伟的大厅。

So it's got a great hall.

有精致的套房。

It's got fine apartments.

还有满是鹿群的庭院。

It's got apartment full of deer.

你知道，我想这就是配得上公主的宫殿吧。

You know, it's a palace fit for a princess, I guess.

是啊，所以亨利在一月份去看望她了，对吧？

Yeah, so Henry, he goes to visit her, doesn't he, in January?

到那时已经非常明显，如果之前对她身世还有任何疑问的话——其实并没有——我是说，她确实有点像亨利，因为她甚至长着

By which point it's very clear that if there were any questions about her parentage, which there hasn't been, I mean, she looks a little bit like Henry because she's even got

那头红发，不是吗？

the red hair, hasn't she?

是的，而且据说脾气也很暴躁。

Yes, and the violent temper apparently.

没错，公平地说，她只是个婴儿。

Right, I mean, to be fair, she's a baby.

我的意思是，这基本上就是标准做法。

I mean, that's pretty much the standard.

然后在三月份的关键时刻，议会通过法案宣布伊丽莎白为亨利的继承人，但其中还有几个转折，对吧？

And then the key thing in March, parliament passes legislation that declares Elizabeth as Henry's heir, But there is a couple of twists, aren't there?

所以基本上，如果亨利在伊丽莎白成年之前去世，那么安妮将成为她子女和整个王国的摄政及绝对统治者。

So, basically, if Henry dies before Elizabeth reaches the age of majority, then Anne will be regent and absolute governor of her children and of the kingdom.

但如果你敢称呼除安妮和伊丽莎白之外的任何人为女王或公主——显然这里的目标是她同父异母的姐姐玛丽——那就是叛国罪。

But also if you call anybody but Anne and Elizabeth, queen or princess, so the obvious target here is her half sister Mary, then that is high treason.

你就等着掉脑袋吧。

And you can say goodbye to your head.

是啊。

Yeah.

对安妮来说是好消息，但对玛丽却是噩耗——作为亨利与阿拉贡的凯瑟琳所生的女儿，她现在被议会法案公开宣布为私生女。

So great news for Anne, but terrible news for Mary, Henry's daughter by Catherine of Aragon, who is now very publicly and by act of parliament declared a bastard.

安妮对此欣喜若狂，因为她憎恨阿拉贡的凯瑟琳，尤其厌恶玛丽，并持续对她恶语相向。

And Anne is ecstatic about this because she detests Catherine of Aragon and she particularly detests Mary and is consistently vicious towards her.

我是说，可怜的玛丽太惨了。

I mean, horrible to to poor Mary.

关于这点我能说些看法吗？

Can I say something actually about on this front?

安妮确实有些令人钦佩的特质。

There's some admirable things about Anne.

我喜欢她尖刻机智的性格特点，但她确实很可怕。

I like the fact that she's acerbic and that she's clever and that she's a bit of a personality and stuff, but she's horrible.

她对玛丽很刻薄，不是吗？

She's horrible to Mary, isn't she?

以一种本不必如此的方式。

In a way that she didn't have to be.

是啊。

Yeah.

我认为部分原因是出于对玛丽血统的嫉妒。

And I think in part, it's it's jealousy of of Mary's lineage.

我想她是为自己的女儿感到嫉妒，但很大程度上也因为玛丽拒绝承认自己的私生女身份。

I think it's she's jealous on behalf of her own daughter, but it's also in large part because Mary refuses to acknowledge her own bastardy.

她拒绝按照父亲亨利期望的方式行事。

She refuses to play the game that Henry, her father, wants her to play.

因此安妮竭尽全力试图抹去玛丽此前作为亨利长女所享有的特权地位。

And so Anne goes all out to try and erase the privilege status that Mary had previously enjoyed as Henry's eldest daughter.

于是在1533年10月1日——伊丽莎白出生仅两个月后——亨利召见玛丽并告知她：'你不再是公主了'。

So on the 10/01/1533, which was only two months after Elizabeth's birth, Henry had summoned Mary and told her, you are no longer gonna be a princess.

从此以后，你只是玛丽小姐。

From this point on, you're just going to be the lady Mary.

玛丽闻言当场痛哭——这完全可以理解。

And Mary understandably burst into tears.

她当时才17岁啊。

She's only 17 years old.

要知道对青少年来说，这种羞辱实在太残忍了。

I mean, you know, for a teenager, teenagers hate mean, it's a humiliating thing.

是啊。

Yeah.

基本上。

Basically.

次月，夏普伊报告了更大的羞辱。

The following month, Chapuy reported an even greater humiliation.

他写道，国王剥夺了玛丽的公主头衔仍不满足，还宣布为了压制这位公主的意志，将撤走她所有随从——因为这些人给她灌输思想，阻止她服从国王——并要求她以侍女身份去服侍那个小杂种。

So he writes, the king, not satisfied with having taken away the name entitled princess from Mary, has just given out that in order to subdue the spirit of the princess, he will deprive her of all her people because they put notions into her head and stop her from obeying him and that she should come and live as lady's maid with the little bastard.

小杂种指的是伊丽莎白。

Little bastard is Elizabeth.

这简直是奇耻大辱。

So, I mean, what a humiliation.

想想看，你被剥夺了所有仆人，还得去给那个取代你的女孩当佣人。

You know, you're stripped of all your own servants, and you have to go and work as a servant for your, you know, this girl who's replaced you.

这实在太可怕了。

I mean, that's absolutely terrible.

玛丽只被允许带两名随从前往，但她坚决拒绝接受这个安排。

So Mary is sent there only with two attendants, and she's obdurate in refusing to accept this.

她说：'我绝不承认这个讨厌的小女孩是合法继承人'。

She says, I'm not going to accept, you know, this horrible little girl as a legitimate heir.

她坚称英格兰除了自己之外没有其他公主。

She insists she knew no other princess in England except herself.

安妮勃然大怒，下令没收玛丽所有的珠宝。

And Anne is so infuriated that she takes away, you know, all Mary's jewels.

这就像没收她的iPhone之类的。

It's like confiscating her iPhone or something.

她还让监督玛丽的女人们打她耳光，称她为该死的杂种。

And she tells the women supervising Mary to box her ears as a cursed bastard.

尼古拉·塔利斯写了另一本很棒的书《囚徒女王》，她说难怪玛丽大部分时间都在房间里哭泣。

So Nicola Talis, who wrote another great book, Princess Prisoner Queen, she says, Little wonder Mary spent much of her time weeping in her chamber.

但这让玛丽听起来像个爱哭鬼，而玛丽并不是这样的人。

But that makes Mary sound like a drip, whereas Mary's not a drip.

我喜欢玛丽。

I like Mary.

我认为她有着巨大的——她有着巨大的骨气，玛丽。

I think she has massive she's got massive backbone, Mary.

显然她被视作英国历史上的大反派之一，因为她的天主教信仰让她自毁前程。

She has a she obviously, she's regarded as one of the great villains of English history because she lets herself down with her Catholicism.

不过我认为她有着惊人的勇气，而且是个顽强的生存者。

However, she has tremendous guts, I think, and she's a massive survivor.

你看，我并不认为那是伤感的哭泣。

I don't you see, I don't think that it's Maudlin weeping.

我觉得那是愤怒的哭泣。

I think it's angry weeping.

是啊。

Yeah.

我尊重这种'我恨你们所有人'式的哭泣。

I respect It's hate you all kind of weeping.

事情就是这样。

That's what it's like.

显然这些行为丝毫不会增加安妮的受欢迎度，因为我们说过凯瑟琳深受英国民众爱戴。

And obviously none of this makes Anne any the more popular because we've said how Catherine is very popular with the mass of the English people.

所以安妮处心积虑羞辱凯瑟琳的女儿玛丽——同样备受爱戴的公主，这实在令人难以接受。

And so Anne going out of her way to insult Catherine's daughter, Mary, who's also very popular, you know, it's it it it doesn't go down well at all.

不出所料，沙普伊完全赞同这种看法。

And Chappuis unsurprisingly completely agrees with this.

记载称：'若非那位女士（即安妮）的纠缠与恶意，我实在无法理解国王为何要如此急迫地这般对待玛丽公主。'

It says, I do not understand why the king is in such haste to treat the princess Mary in this way if it were not for the importunity and malignity of the lady, I e Anne.

我知道他有偏见，但他...但他没说错。

I know he's biased, but he's But he's not wrong.

是啊。

Yeah.

他说得对。

He's right.

我想如果伊丽莎白是个男孩，这些就都不成问题了。

Now I guess none of this would would have mattered had Elizabeth been a boy.

我的意思是，那样安妮就能为所欲为了。

I mean, Anne could have done then in that case, she could have done whatever she liked.

或者如果她在生下伊丽莎白后能再次怀孕，为亨利生下梦寐以求的儿子。

Nor if in the wake of Elizabeth's birth, she had then been able to get pregnant again and give Henry the son that she wanted.

但这一切都未能实现，因为在1534年发生了彻底灾难——安妮流产了。

But this does not happen because in the 1534, absolute disaster, Anne loses a baby.

几乎已满孕期，传闻说那是个男孩。

It's gone almost a full term, and the rumor is that it had been a boy.

又一年过去，又有流产的传闻。

Another year goes by, and there are rumors of another miscarriage.

而且人们也清楚地看到亨利开始对安妮有些厌倦了。

And it is clear as well to people that Henry is getting a little bit fed up with Anne.

所以你说你喜欢她。

So you said you like her.

她很泼辣。

She's sassy.

她很尖刻。

She's acerbic.

但亨利，要知道，一开始他可能觉得这挺有吸引力，挺撩人的。

But Henry, you know, he might you know, to begin with, he might have found that quite attractive, quite titillating.

但我想到了这个时候，他开始觉得她专横、傲慢、唠叨、泼辣，这些都不是他特别希望在妻子身上看到的品质。

But I think by this point, he's starting to find her bossy, arrogant, nagging, shrewish, and these are not qualities that he's particularly looking for in a wife.

你知道吗？

Do you know what?

有时候安妮·柏林，我说她很可怕，但有时她让我隐约看到了一点自己的影子。

Sometimes Anne Berlin, I said she was horrible, but sometimes she reminds me a tiny bit of myself.

真的吗？

Really?

想象一下，天哪，亨利要是能娶到你就太幸运了。

Imagine, well, God, Henry would have been lucky to get married to you.

不得不说，多米尼克，我觉得你给亨利生儿子的几率会很低。

That has to be said, Dominic, that the odds of you giving Henry a son would be low, I think.

是啊，这确实是我从未真正思考过的情况。

Yeah, it's not a situation I've ever really pondered.

比如我会如何扮演亨利八世的妻子之一？

Like how would I perform as one of Henry VIII's wives?

但实际上，虽然安伯林是我最不喜欢的一个，但她可能也是我最喜欢的一个。

But actually, I think probably, although Amberlynn is the one I like least, she's probably the one I most like.

幸运的是，你不需要为亨利怀孕。

Well, fortunately for you, you you are not having to get pregnant by Henry.

所以那是安妮的任务。

So that's Anne's job.

而对安妮来说不祥的是，此时亨利的目光又开始游移了。

And ominously for Anne, by this point, Henry, his eye is starting to stray again.

他开始有了外遇。

He's starting to have affairs.

早在1534年10月，也就是安妮第二次流产几个月后，查普伊斯就报告说，亨利特别关注一位侍女，这位女士名叫简·西摩。

And as early as October 1534, so this is a few months after Anne's second miscarriage, Chapuis is reporting, that Henry is paying particular attention to one lady in waiting, and this is a woman called Jane Seymour.

次年夏天，也就是1535年，亨利拜访了位于威尔特郡的西摩家族宅邸，我很高兴能提到这点。

And the following summer, so that's in 1535, Henry pays a visit to the Seymour house, which is in Wiltshire, I'm delighted to say.

哦，能把索尔兹伯里地区的威尔特郡重新纳入节目真是太棒了

Oh, it's great to have Wiltshire in the Salisbury area back on

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the show.

这个地方叫做沃尔夫庄园。

This is a place called Wolf Hall.

看来亨利对简·西摩确实相当倾心，都到了要去见家长的地步了。

So it it seems that Henry is really quite keen on Jane Seymour if he's going off and, you know, meeting the parents and all that kind of thing.

目前尚不清楚简究竟有何魅力让亨利如此着迷。

It's unclear exactly what it is that Jane has that Henry finds so irresistible.

正如夏普伊那句著名的描述所言，她是个谜。

So Chapouille famously describes her as an enigma.

她很端庄。

She's modest.

她并不特别出众。

She's not particularly attractive.

夏普伊评价她并非才思敏捷之人。

Chapuy describes her as not a woman of great wit.

特蕾西·伯曼在她关于安妮·博林的书中指出，'谜'在都铎时期是女性生殖器的俚语。

Tracy Borman in her in her book on Anne Boleyn points out that enigma was Tudor slang for the female genitals.

或许夏普伊在此暗有所指，但尚不明确。

So perhaps Chapuy is hinting at something there unclear.

但简确实有一个绝对优势胜过安妮——至少在亨利眼中——她不会动不动就对他发脾气。

But there's one definite advantage that she that Jane does have over Anne, certainly in Henry's eyes, which is that she isn't always losing her temper with him.

但简·西摩的吸引力恰恰在于，安伯琳言辞犀利、好争辩、有点唠叨、有点专横，这些特质让她非常有趣。

But the point about the appeal of Jane Seymour is surely that Amberlynn is acerbic, is argumentative, is a bit of a nag, is a bit bossy, all of these things that make her very interesting.

简·西摩相当无趣，但她基本上是个讨好型人格。

Jane Seymour is quite boring, but she basically is a people pleaser.

我们所了解的她，就是个极度讨好型人格的人。

Everything we know about her is she's a massive people pleaser.

亨利心想，天啊，她真甜美。

And Henry thinks, God, she's sweet.

她很好。

She's nice.

她会给我端来一杯香料酒之类的，然后照顾我的胃溃疡。

She'll bring me a cup of scented wine or whatever and nurse my ulcer.

她会觉得我的朋友

She'll find my friends

很有趣。

amusing.

没错。

Exactly.

没错。

Exactly.

是啊。

Yeah.

但安妮的故事还没结束。

But it's still not all over for Anne.

到了1536年1月，她又怀孕了。

So by January 1536, she's pregnant again.

紧接着在1536年1月7日，更棒的消息传来——阿拉贡的凯瑟琳去世了。

And then on the 01/07/1536, even better news, it is announced that Catherine of Aragon is dead.

亨利的反应是，感谢上帝。

And Henry's reaction is, god be praised.

安妮的兄弟乔治，可惜玛丽公主没有与她为伴。

Anne's brother George, it was a pity the princess, I e Mary, did not keep company with her.

所以，我是说，真的非常恶毒。

So, I mean, really venomous.

真的非常恶毒。

Really venomous.

你可能会好奇，为什么会有这种敌意？

And you might wonder, well, you know, why this hostility?

我认为对乔治·柏林来说，对玛丽的敌意不仅仅是王朝层面的。

I think for George Berlin, the hostility to Mary is it's not just dynastic.

他和安妮一样，已成为非常非常狂热的福音派信徒。

He, like Anne, has become a very, very passionate evangelical.

用新教徒这个词形容他可能有些时代错位，但他本质上已是如此。

So we kind of be anachronistic to call him a Protestant, but that's basically what he is by now.

但玛丽依然非常虔诚、非常倔强地忠于传统天主教信仰。

But Mary, she has stayed very devoutly, very defiantly loyal to the traditional Catholic faith.

她效忠于教皇。

She's loyal to the Pope.

当然，这种忠诚也是她对阿拉贡的凯瑟琳忠心的体现。

And of course that loyalty is an expression of her loyalty to Catherine of Aragon.

所以她拒绝接受亨利对教会的最高权威。

So she refuses to accept Henry's supremacy of the church.

这自然使她能够理直气壮地否认我同父异母的妹妹伊丽莎白的合法地位。

And this of course in turn then enables her to say, well, have every godly reason to deny the legitimacy of my half sister, Elizabeth.

这意味着对波林家族而言——安妮、乔治等人——他们的虔诚信仰与福音派身份，此刻已与王朝野心和利益诉求完美交织。

And that means that for the Boleyns, Anne, George, or the rest of the crowd, their godliness, their evangelical identity is now kind of seamlessly interwoven with their dynastic ambitions and interests.

因此在他们看来，上帝显然站在波林家族这边，反对玛丽公主和那些可恶的天主教徒，这是不言而喻的。

So for for them, it it seems obvious that God is on the side of the Boleyns and against princess Mary and and all these kind of awful Catholics.

但当然，如果安妮无法给予亨利最渴望的东西——一个儿子，这一切都将毫无意义。

But, of course, I mean, it it none of this matters if Anne can't give Henry what he so desperately wants, a son.

是啊。

Yeah.

所以时间紧迫。

So the clock's ticking.

我其实提到过他的溃疡。

I mentioned his ulcer actually.

这么说有些时代错乱，因为他直到1544年1月24日那次马上长矛比武事故后才患上那个著名的溃疡。

I was being anachronistic because he doesn't get this famous ulcer until the January 24 when he has this jousting accident.

他当时险些丧命，对吧？

He comes very close to death, doesn't he?

他被击落马下。

He's knocked off his horse.

人们甚至以为他可能已经死了。

People actually think he may have died.

正是这次事件，才第一次让人们真正意识到问题的严重性。

And with that, there is a serious you know, for the first time, people think, gosh.

他当时真的可能会死。

He could actually have died.

然后接下来发生了什么？

And and what happens next?

要知道，这个王朝的未来尚未稳固。

You know, the future of the dynasty is not yet secure.

有很多人认为只要他一死，就万事大吉了。

There are a lot of people who think when he goes, great.

我们就能摆脱都铎王朝了。

We can get rid of the Tudors.

我是说，他们有点像是异类，我们可以重新找位金雀花王朝的后裔来继位。

I mean, they're a bit of an aberration, and we can get back to we can find some plantaginates air to take over.

是啊，我们可以重新开战了。

Yeah, we can get back to fighting.

没错，正是如此。

Yeah, exactly.

太棒了。

Brilliant.

完全正确。

Exactly.

所以，是的。

So, yeah.

因此那次坠马事件产生了连锁反应——五天后，1月29日，凯瑟琳·阿拉贡被安葬在彼得伯勒大教堂。

And so that fall, it has a kind of knock on consequence because five days later, January 29, Catherine Raragon is laid to rest in Peterborough Cathedral.

就在同一天，安妮流产了。

And on the same day, Anne has a miscarriage.

她将此归咎于得知亨利坠马消息时受到的惊吓。

And she blames it on the shock that she felt on learning of the news of Henry's fall.

但亨利认为，不，这是诅咒的征兆。

But Henry thinks, no, this is the marker of a curse.

就像我的第一段婚姻被诅咒一样，现在我的第二段婚姻也被诅咒了。

Just as my first marriage was cursed, so now my second is cursed.

他明确表示：'我看上帝不会赐予我男性子嗣了。'

And he says explicitly, I see that God will not give me male children.

而沙普伊，你知道，他对此有些幸灾乐祸。

And Shapui, you know, he is kind of delighted by this.

他在给皇帝查理五世的信中引用了沙普伊的报告，称亨利越来越相信'自己是受巫术诱惑才缔结这段婚姻，因此认为婚姻无效'。

And he writes to Charles V, the emperor, and he reports Henry's growing belief, and I quote Chapuy, that he had made this marriage seduced by witchcraft And for this reason, he considered it null.

你看，我认为亨利此刻——我的感觉是他内心有些愧疚。

See, I think Henry, at this point, my sense is that he feels a little bit guilty.

事实上，阿拉贡的凯瑟琳已经去世了。

He actually Catherine of Aragon has died.

尽管他永远不会向自己承认，但他的所作所为确实恶劣至极。

And although he will never admit it to himself, he has treated her abominably.

而她并非恶人。

And she wasn't a bad person.

她曾是他的贤妻。

She was a good wife for him.

他对待自己的女儿极其恶劣。

He's treated his own daughter atrociously.

而且亨利是个非常虚荣的人。

And Henry is a very vain man.

他永远不会承认自己行为恶劣。

He will never accept that he's behaved badly.

所以他把这些都怪在安妮头上，不是吗？

So he pins all this on Anne, doesn't he?

你不觉得他就是这样做的吗？

Don't you think that's what he's doing?

是的，我也这么认为。

Yeah, I think so.

而且我认为对安妮更不幸的是，虽然简·西玛可能很无趣，但她从安妮那里学会了如何操控亨利。

And I think also what's very unfortunate for Anne is that Jane Seema, although she may be boring, she's learnt from Anne how to play Henry.

所以在四月，亨利送给简一个装满金币的钱包和一封信，大概是在向她求婚。

So in April, Henry sends Jane this purse of gold sovereigns and a letter, presumably pledging his troth.

她却只是端庄地吻了吻信，原封不动地退了回去，并宣称只有结婚后才会接受这样的礼物。

And she just kisses the letter very demurely and sends it back unopened and declares that she will only accept such gifts if she is married.

所以她从情妇那里学会了如何玩这场游戏，如何应对。

So she's learned from the mistress, you know, how to play, how to do this.

同年四月，确切地说同一个月，安妮在格林威治，她让人把伊丽莎白从哈特菲尔德接来。

That April, the same to say the same month, Anne is in Greenwich, and she has Elizabeth brought from Hatfield.

此时的伊丽莎白已经两岁半了。

And Elizabeth, by this point, is two and a half years old.

伊丽莎白显然一直萦绕在安妮的心头。

And Elizabeth has has clearly been much on Anne's mind.

所以安妮一直在为她订购各式各样的衣服。

So Anne has been ordering her all all kinds of clothes.

有橙色和紫色的天鹅绒礼服，还有装饰着金线的塔夫绸帽子，显然是为了搭配她的肤色和赤褐色头发而设计的。

It's kind of dresses of orange and purple velvet and taffeta caps adorned with gold, obviously designed to kind of go with her complexion and her auburn hair.

安妮再次展现出她时尚达人的一面。

So Anne again being, you know, the the the great fashionista.

此时她显然在担忧，亨利可能随时会对她不利，这对她女儿意味着什么。

And she's clearly worrying, I think, by this point that Henry might strike against her at any moment and what are the implications of this for for her for her daughter.

于是在4月26日，她召见了私人牧师进行谈话。

So on the April 26, she summons her private private chaplain for a conversation.

这位牧师名叫马修·帕克，是位杰出的年轻福音派学者，正是安妮青睐的那种典型教士。

And this chaplain is a man called Matthew Parker, who is a very brilliant young evangelical scholar, typical of the kind of clergyman that Anne has been favoring.

安妮对他说：我不知道会发生什么，但假设最坏的情况发生，你能承诺照顾我的女儿伊丽莎白吗？

And Anne says to him, look, I don't know what's gonna happen, but suppose the worst does happen, please will you promise to look after my daughter Elizabeth?

帕克宣誓道：是的陛下，我绝对会的。

And Parker vows, yes, your majesty, I absolutely will.

他也确实恪守了这个誓言。

And he holds true to that vow.

多年后，在伊丽莎白统治时期，帕克向女王汇报了这次与安妮的谈话。

So years later in Elizabeth's reign, Parker reports the conversation he'd had with Anne at this point to Elizabeth.

他将这次谈话描述为：陛下母亲最后对我谈及她的嘱托。

And he describes it as the last words that ever her majesty's mother spoke to me concerning her.

好吧，你说最后的话是因为安妮的末日将至，对吧？

Well, you say the last words because the end is coming for Anne, isn't it?

而且据说当时她正在观看某种体育比赛？

And it comes on isn't there some story that there she's watching some form of sport?

我记不清具体是什么了。

I can't remember what it is.

人们在打网球之类的，然后她突然收到议会的传唤，你知道的，必须立即前往。

People playing tennis or something, and then she gets a summons from the council, You know, come and you must come immediately.

令她震惊的是，她竟被指控——完全出乎意料的指控，

And she's accused of to her shock, complete and utter shock,

她被指控通奸，然后被用驳船从格林威治押往伦敦塔。

she is accused of adultery, and then she's taken off by barge from Greenwich to the Tower Of London.

她甚至都没机会在行刑前见女儿最后一面，是吗？

She never even gets the chance to see her daughter before she goes, does she?

没有。

No.

没有丝毫拖延。

There's no dilly dallying.

进入伦敦塔后，隆隆炮声向整个伦敦宣告她的到来。

So after the tower she goes and the boom of cannons announces to London her arrival in the tower.

当然，三年前她曾与亨利在此处的皇家寓所小住数日，而后穿越伦敦去参加加冕礼，如今却被囚禁于此。

And, of course, this was where three years earlier, she'd stayed for a couple of days with Henry in the royal quarters before setting out across London for her coronation, and now she's being incarcerated there as a prisoner.

入塔第一晚，她就问守塔官：'我会未经审判就被处死吗？'

And the first evening that she's there, she asks the constable of the tower, shall I die without justice?

我是说，她显然意识到了，那个正威胁着她的命运。

I mean, she clearly recognizes, you know, the the the fate that is now threatening her.

而警官回答她，国王最卑微的子民也能得到公正。

And the constable replies to her, the poorest subject the king hath hath justice.

对此安妮只是笑了笑。

And at this Anne only laughs.

这笑声充满苦涩，因为安妮并未得到公正。

And laughter is very bitter because Anne does not receive justice.

所以她是在5月15日在伦敦塔受审的，对吧？

So she's put on trial on the May 15 in the Tower Of London, isn't she?

她是英格兰历史上首位接受公开审判的王后。

She's the first queen of England ever to be subjected to a public trial.

指控包括通奸，她被判定与五名不同男子有染。

And the counts so adultery, she's convicted of adultery with five different men.

我是说，他们这次是动真格的。

I mean, they're not messing around.

接下来是乱伦指控，因为她被控与自己兄弟乔治·柏林发生关系。

Then the next count, incest because she's accused of sleeping with her own brother, this evangelical guy, George Berlin.

然后是叛国罪和密谋杀害丈夫的指控。

And then treason and conspiracy to kill her husband, to murder her husband.

但事实上，她对这些指控显然是无辜的。

And the thing is, of course, she's obviously innocent of these things.

对吧？

Right?

我是说，历史学家从不认为她密谋反对丈夫，或与兄弟乱伦，甚至犯下通奸罪。

I mean, people never historians don't think she'd plotted against her husband or that she'd slept with her brother or she committed even she committed adultery.

不。

No.

我不认为有任何历史学家相信这些是真的。

I don't think any historians think that they're true.

本质上，亨利想除掉她，为此不惜一切代价。

Essentially, Henry wants her eliminated and he's prepared to go to any lengths to do it.

果然，判决书向她宣读：'因你对抗我们至高无上的国王陛下，犯下叛国罪'。

And sure enough, the sentence is read out to her because thou hast defended against our sovereign the king's grace in committing treason against this person.

根据王国法律，你将在伦敦塔内的绿地上被烧死，或斩首处决。

The law of the realm is this, that thou shall be burnt here within the Tower Of London on the green, else to have thy head smitten off.

显然，斩首总比活活烧死要好。

And clearly in that, it's better to have your head chopped off than to be burnt alive.

安妮正在被提供一项交易。

Anne is being offered a deal.

答应我的要求，你将获得仁慈的处决。

Agree to what I want and you will have a merciful death.

次日，克兰默果然来到塔中拜访安妮，并成功说服她同意废除婚姻。

And the following day, sure enough, Anne is visited in the tower by Cranmer, and Cranmer wins Anne's consent to the annulment of her marriage.

这对人们来说可能很意外，因为这实际上宣告了伊丽莎白的私生女身份。

And this might seem surprising to people because effectively, of course, this serves to render Elizabeth now a bastard.

但我认为安妮是自愿的。

But I think Anne is doing it.

我是说，部分原因可能是她觉得，好吧，你知道，我会被砍头。

I mean, partly may maybe she thinks, well, you know, I'll have my head chopped off.

但我认为她认为通过这样做，她的生命将得以保全，这样至少能确保伊丽莎白继续有母亲，但事实上并没有赦免。

But I think I think she thinks that by doing this, her life will be spared and that will then enable her to It will ensure that at least Elizabeth will continue to have a mother, but there is no pardon.

托马斯，这观点其实很有趣。

Interesting point there, actually, Thomas.

我从未真正想过，在那一刻亨利八世本可以赦免她。

Never really occurred to me that at that point, Henry VIII could have pardoned her.

我是说，他本可以说，把她打发走，我想要阿拉贡的凯瑟琳。

I mean, he could have just said, send her off, I'd like Catherine of Aragon.

把她打发到某个乡间别墅去。

Send her off to some country house.

然后尽管人们会谈论他有过很多妻子，但他的名声就是这种蓝胡子式的杀妻者。

And then although people would talk about him as having had lots of wives, his reputation is this kind of blue beard, the wife killer.

我是说，他没必要杀她。

I mean, he doesn't have to kill her.

是的，他没必要。

No, he doesn't.

所有人都觉得这令人震惊。

And everyone finds it astonishing.

就连明显厌恶安妮的夏普伊也认为这简直是疯了。

So even Chapuy who obviously hates Anne, I mean, regards it as madness.

所以，你知道他说，愿上帝允许这是他的最后一次愚蠢行为。

So, you know, he says, may God permit that this may be his last folly.

我认为这被视为非常反常的行为。

It's seen as as very aberrant behavior, I think.

但你要知道，她现在已公开声明并接受她的婚姻是无效的。

But, you know, she has now declared and accepted that her marriage was invalid.

于是在次日早晨，5月17日，兰贝斯宫，克拉默正式宣布亨利与安妮的婚姻无效。

And so the following morning, May 17, Lambeth Palace, Cramer officially annuls Henry's marriage to Anne.

这意味着伊丽莎白，如同她同父异母的姐姐玛丽一样，被宣布为私生女并剥夺公主头衔。

And this means that Elizabeth, like her half sister Mary, is declared bastard and deprived of the title of princess.

从此以后，她将被称为伊丽莎白女士。

So from this point on, she will be called the lady Elizabeth.

就在同日上午晚些时候，5月17日，那五名被判定与安妮通奸的男子被带往伦敦塔山。

And later that same morning, May 17, the five men who've been convicted of adultery with Anne are led out onto Tower Hill.

在聚集观看行刑的众多伦敦市民面前，他们一个接一个地被斩首。

So before the mass of Londoners who've gathered there to watch the spectacle and one by one, they are beheaded.

乔治·柏林第一个受刑，因为他地位最高，而且此时斧头最为锋利。

And George Berlin goes first because he's of the highest rank and the axe will be at its sharpest.

所以这某种程度上算是...特权的一种体现。

So it's a kind of, you know, a measure of privilege there.

他以殉道者的姿态为他的福音派信仰发声。

And he speaks as a martyr for his evangelical beliefs.

他说：'我始终是上帝之言的传播者。'

He says, I have been a setter forth of the word of God.

他暗示这就是他被铲除的原因。

So he's implying this is the reason that he's being eliminated.

他没有为他的妹妹辩护。

He does not defend his sister.

事实上，在被处决的五人中，只有一人——亨利非常亲近的一个人，名叫亨利·诺里斯，他是亨利长期以来的宠臣和朋友——

And in fact, only one of the five men who are executed, who's a guy who Henry, you know, very close to, a man called Henry Norris, the long term favorite and friend of Henry's.

他是唯一一个做了体面事并公开为安妮辩护的人。

He's the only one who does a decent thing and speaks out in defense of Anne.

他说凭良心讲，他认为王后对这些指控是无辜的，他宁愿死一千次也不愿毁掉一个无辜的人。

So he said in his conscience, he thought the queen innocent of these things laid to charge, and he would die a thousand deaths rather than ruin an innocent person.

但你知道，这没有任何作用。

But, you know, this has no impact.

这对安妮没有帮助。

It doesn't help Anne.

5月19日，也就是两天后，轮到她面对死亡。

And on the May 19, so two days later, it is her turn to meet death.

她不像那五个被控通奸的男子那样死在塔丘，而是在伦敦塔内被处决。

Now she does not die as the five men accused of adultery had done on Tower Hill, but within the tower itself.

所以这算是保留了一些隐私。

So there's a measure of privacy.

上千人聚集观看，但她不必忍受肮脏暴民的嘲笑和奚落。

A thousand people are gathered to watch it, you know, but she doesn't have the stinking rabble jeering and and mocking her.

白塔旁搭建了一座巨大的断头台。

A great scaffold has been erected next to the White Tower.

断头台上覆盖着黑布。

It's been draped in black.

她穿着一件灰色丝绸长裙走向刑台。

She approaches it wearing a a gray silk gown.

她被带上了断头台。

She's led to the scaffold.

她登上台阶，然后向人群发表讲话。

She climbs its steps, and then she addresses the crowd.

她说：'我祈求上帝保佑国王，愿他长久统治你们，因为再没有比他更仁慈宽厚的君主了。'

And she says, I pray God save the king and send him long to reign over you for a gentler nor a more merciful prince was there never.

显然，她并不真心相信这些话。

I mean, obviously, she doesn't believe this.

人们可能会疑惑，她为什么要这么说？

And so people may wonder, well, why would she say it?

我认为原因是她希望这样能让亨利对他们的女儿更仁慈些。

And I think that, you know, the reason is is that she is hoping it will encourage Henry to look more fondly on their daughter.

很可能在她生命的最后时刻，安妮心里想的都是伊丽莎白。

And so it may well be that, you know, in her final moments, Anne's thoughts are of Elizabeth.

那里并没有断头木。

So there isn't a block.

她只是跪在稻草上。

She just kneels in the straw.

她做完祷告，然后摘下了头套。

She says her her prayers, and then she removes the hood that she's had.

这样她的脖颈就完全暴露出来了。

And so that kind of opens up her neck.

她的头发被束起，戴上了帽子。

She her hair is bundled up, put in a cap.

因此她的颈部完全暴露在外。

So her neck is now absolutely exposed.

侍女上前，蒙住她的眼睛，安妮向前倾身。

Lady in waiting step forwards, blindfolds her, Anne leans forwards.

她仍在祈祷。

She's still saying her prayers.

然后有位亨利特别聘请的法国剑客，以其专业技艺——我想这算是某种微小的仁慈标志。

And then there's a French swordsman who Henry has specially hired for his expertise, kind of slight mark of mercy, I suppose.

他悄无声息地伸手取剑，不让安妮察觉行刑时刻。

And he quietly reaches down for his sword without making a sound so Anne doesn't know when it's gonna come.

接着他以极其流畅、寂静的精准动作，将剑刃落在安妮的颈上。

And then with very smooth, very silent precision, he brings the blade of the sword down onto Anne's neck.

她的头颅被一刀斩下。

Her head is severed with a single blow.